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Re: [Digital BW] Coating revisited

2002-04-11 by Martin Wesley

Julian,

I think that would be much worse than using a brush. You are likely to wind
up with droplets of varying sizes which will result in a pebbled look to the
finish. I know some people did some attempts using pressurized spray guns
but I don't recall what the results were.

Martin

----- Original Message -----
From: "Julian Thomas" <julianthomas@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 2:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Coating revisited


> Martin, is it possible to use a spray bottle of some kind?
>
> Julian
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Martin Wesley" <mwesley250@...>
> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 7:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Coating revisited
>
>
> > Robert,
> >
> > I did try coating some Eclipse last summer and the results we good but
my
> > brush work was lacking. I found it harder to work with in the area of
> > streaking, etc. I realize that the paper may have changed since then.
> >
> > I am not surprised that you got a better Dmax using the Epson driver. I
> > noticed long ago it gave deeper blacks than the Piezo driver even with
the
> > Piezo inks.
> >
> > Martin
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Robert Morrison" <rmorrison@...>
> > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 9:38 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Coating revisited
> >
> >
> > > Just coated some BW prints on Museo and Eclipse last night.  I ran
gray
> > > wedges and black patches just to see where the dmax is at these days.
I
> > > printed with John Woolf's work flow and Piezo inks.  This yields an
> > uncoated
> > > dmax of 1.57 with both Museo and Eclipse.  When the papers are coated
> the
> > > dmax goes to 2.05 for Eclipse and 2.10 for Museo.  The Museo prints
have
> a
> > > high gloss, while the Eclipse prints just have a satin sheen.
> > >
> > > In my experience, this dmax is equal to or exceeds pigment prints on
> gloss
> > > papers, even when sprayed with Krylon.
> > >
> > > For those of you have been experimenting with coatings (Martin)...you
> owe
> > it
> > > to yourself to print on Eclipse and coat.  If you thought the prints
> that
> > > you have seen in the past look "plastic"...I think you will really
like
> > > this.
> > >
> > > Robert
> > >
> > >
> > > On 4/10/02 1:51 PM, "Richard Wolfson" <richard@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > > hi Robert -
> > > >
> > > > oh, ok. I understand now. I saw the September part, but figured I'd
> just
> > > > missed some prior postings on method. I didn't get that it's
> > > > proprietary. That's cool.
> > > >
> > > > If you're maintaining an email list for a product announcement, I'd
be
> > > > pleased if you'd add mine. Good luck, and thanks for getting back to
> me.
> > > >
> > > > Richard
> > > >
> > > > Richard Wolfson
> > > > fine art photographer and printmaker
> > > > (978) 456-3033
> > > > www.rwolfson.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> From: Robert G. Morrison [mailto:rmorrison@...]
> > > >> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 4:43 PM
> > > >> To: Richard Wolfson
> > > >> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Coating revisited
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> As I said below...
> > > >>
> > > >>>> Currently, I'm hoping to have a commercial product out by next
> > > >>>> September...but no promises.
> > > >>
> > > >> Until that time I can't say anything about my process or
> > > >> materials...I'm under a non-disclosure agreement.  All I can
> > > >> tell you is what to expect in performance...also below.  If
> > > >> you would like to see a coated print...I'm sending them out
> > > >> through the Piezo and DigitalBW exchanges over the next
> > > >> several months.  Robert Rex also has sample prints of Museo
> > > >> coated. Brightcube will also be traveling with coated Eclipse
> > > >> prints soon.
> > > >>
> > > >> Sorry I can't be more helpful.
> > > >>
> > > >> Robert
> > > >>
> > >
> > > ----------------------
> > > Robert Morrison
> > > rmorrison@...
> > >
> > > 310-397-2704
> > >
> > > 4131 Bledsoe Ave.
> > > Los Angeles, CA 90066
> > >
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