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[Digital BW] Re: What if grain is "necessary"

2002-05-11 by tomoc

Daniel-

I love silver oxide (I use a Nikon D1x)... I upgraded to the 16 bit 
with the larger image view and I totally love it (though I must admit 
I've fallen into the habit of only using the terrific plus-x filter).

I don't think the Tri-x actually adds any grain, just a little less 
contrast and "tri-x" look.

Have you tried any of the other filters? Do you know of any way to 
see examples of what they would produce???

Maybe we could post some examples here of files that show off each 
filter characteristics...or exchange files via email? I'd be willing 
to buy a few more filters (not cheap) but want to know what they will 
do before I get them...I'm just not familiar with any of the other 
films he offers.

What do you think?

Tom O'Connell

TomOC@...
www.thomasoconnell.com



--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., Daniel Bowdoin 
<controlarm@m...> wrote:
> On Friday, May 10, 2002, at 07:37 AM, marktuckerdotcom wrote:
> 
> > It is weird that you'd write this. Just yesterday, as I was
> > obsessing over this Canon D60 b/w file, thinking it looked too
> > clean and clinical and something else I couldn't quite put my
> > finger on, I added Noise (Monochromatic) to the image, and,
> > WALLAH!, it immediately turned into an romantic image that had
> > been shot with a 1955 Leica!  . . . So, play around with Noise, 
and 
> > compare it to Grain, and then
> > compare it to Film Grain. Each approach gives a slightly different
> 
> If you aren't already familiar with them, you might find the 
Photoshop 
> b&w filters produced by SilverOxide.com interesting. They are 
intended 
> to convert digital photographs or scanned color images into black 
and 
> white images with the tonal characteristics of a variety of 
specific b&w 
> films. The SilverOxide website--www.silveroxide.com--is a little on 
the 
> crude side, but it's clear enough about how the filters function. I 
> think that all the illustrations they provide are based on their 
Tri-X 
> filter. The filters don't address the grain issue (only the way 
that , 
> say, Tri-X, HP5, Delta 400, T400CN, and APX400 respond differently 
to 
> the same colors), but I thought they might be relevant to a 
discussion 
> of the "unfilmlike" look of unadjusted digital b&w images.
> 
> Dan Bowdoin

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