I also use the SilverOxide filters. Good stuff. I bought a bunch of the 8-bit filters way back. I only have the Tri-X 16-bit filter. Their upgrade pricing is virtually nonexistent. I couldn't bring myself to fork out a couple hundred dollars to buy 16-bit versions of the same filters. One problem I have with the filter is the slider controls. One is supposed to control the shadows and the other controls the highlights. I find that they really aren't independent sliders. So I spend a lot of time setting the sliders, running the filter, checking the histogram, undo, back to the filter, readjust sliders, etc, etc. But, I find this to be easier for me than learning how to deal with the channel mixer. Mike --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "tomoc" <TomOC@s...> wrote: > Daniel- > > I love silver oxide (I use a Nikon D1x)... I upgraded to the 16 bit > with the larger image view and I totally love it (though I must admit > I've fallen into the habit of only using the terrific plus-x filter). > > I don't think the Tri-x actually adds any grain, just a little less > contrast and "tri-x" look. > > Have you tried any of the other filters? Do you know of any way to > see examples of what they would produce??? > > Maybe we could post some examples here of files that show off each > filter characteristics...or exchange files via email? I'd be willing > to buy a few more filters (not cheap) but want to know what they will > do before I get them...I'm just not familiar with any of the other > films he offers. > > What do you think? > > Tom O'Connell > > TomOC@s... > www.thomasoconnell.com > > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., Daniel Bowdoin > <controlarm@m...> wrote: > > On Friday, May 10, 2002, at 07:37 AM, marktuckerdotcom wrote: > > > > > It is weird that you'd write this. Just yesterday, as I was > > > obsessing over this Canon D60 b/w file, thinking it looked too > > > clean and clinical and something else I couldn't quite put my > > > finger on, I added Noise (Monochromatic) to the image, and, > > > WALLAH!, it immediately turned into an romantic image that had > > > been shot with a 1955 Leica! . . . So, play around with Noise, > and > > > compare it to Grain, and then > > > compare it to Film Grain. Each approach gives a slightly different > > > > If you aren't already familiar with them, you might find the > Photoshop > > b&w filters produced by SilverOxide.com interesting. They are > intended > > to convert digital photographs or scanned color images into black > and > > white images with the tonal characteristics of a variety of > specific b&w > > films. The SilverOxide website--www.silveroxide.com--is a little on > the > > crude side, but it's clear enough about how the filters function. I > > think that all the illustrations they provide are based on their > Tri-X > > filter. The filters don't address the grain issue (only the way > that , > > say, Tri-X, HP5, Delta 400, T400CN, and APX400 respond differently > to > > the same colors), but I thought they might be relevant to a > discussion > > of the "unfilmlike" look of unadjusted digital b&w images. > > > > Dan Bowdoin
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[Digital BW] Re: What if grain is "necessary"
2002-05-11 by michaeladawson_ajax
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