Digital BW, The Print

We don't claim other people's knowledge, we indeed credit 
every post to its author.

We try to create a new resource which we think can be very 
helpful. We work to organise, cross reference and better present
this information, and this work is clearly our added value
to the raw posts.

What people post to this group is already in a public archive
accessible to anyone, so I fail to see how I caused you any 
prejudice or loss. 

But we respect your choice and have removed all your posts 
from the Photo Binbook (due to caching, they may still 
appear for a couple days). We are in the process of removing 
all the posts from this group. Hopefully this will make it 
unnecessary to continue this discussion.

Best regards,

Gregory Popovitch
Binbooks Corporation

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Julian Thomas" 
<julianthomas@t...> wrote:
> Don't you see anything even slightly wrong in claiming and using 
other
> people's hard-earned knowledge? Would you scan books authored by 
other
> people and archive those? Don't you accept the principal of 
Intellectual
> Copyright? Would you like it if I knicked the coding of your 
database? I
> really don't understand.
> 
> Julian
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gregory Popovitch" <greg@g...>
> To: "Martin Wesley" <mwesley250@e...>
> Cc: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y...>
> Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 9:51 PM
> Subject: [Digital BW] RE: The Photo Binbook
> 
> 
> >
> > Hello Martin and Antonis,
> >
> > I don't believe you are correct when you state that we have
> > violated Yahoo's "Terms of Service". I also don't believe
> > that you have the authority to request that we remove posts
> > from anyone besides yourself.
> >
> > However, we have decided that we will indeed remove all posts
> > from this group while we investigate this further. Of course
> > the posts of individuals who request so will be permanently
> > removed.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Gregory Popovitch
> > Binbooks Corporation
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Martin Wesley [mailto:mwesley250@e...]
> > Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 1:17 PM
> > To: greg@g...; gregory@b...
> > Cc: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y...
> > Subject: The Photo Binbook
> >
> >
> > Gregory,
> >
> > After reviewing the binbook discussion we, as the Group's owners, 
have
> > reached a position on the matter.
> >
> > While our intent is to disseminate information about the many 
techniques
> of
> > producing a B&W print from a digital file, we take exception to 
your
> > approach.
> >
> > We feel that it would have been appropriate for you to have first
> approached
> > the Group owners about your project, then to have brought up the 
subject
> > with the entire Group, and finally obtained permission from each
> individual
> > to reproduce each individual post and to publish their e-mail 
address.
> >
> > We also feel that the commercial nature of your project is at 
odds with
> the
> > "commercial free" policy of the Group.
> >
> > We are in agreement with earlier posts that you have violated 
Yahoo's
> "Terms
> > of Service," you have broken copyright laws and you have breached 
the
> > privacy of the members whose e-mail addresses you have posted. 
(You are
> > apparently unaware that the sender's e-mail address is not posted 
to the
> > Group list that is open to the public but are only sent out with 
e-mailed
> > copies which is only available to members of the Group.)
> >
> > Please remove all posts you have copied from the Yahoo! User 
Group,
> "Digital
> > B&W, The Print," from your site immediately. If you do not comply 
with
> this
> > request, your membership in the Group will be banned. We will 
also contact
> > Yahoo to inform them of your breach of the Terms of Service and 
your
> > copyright violations.
> >
> > This message will also be posted to the list and we will ask 
Group members
> > to monitor your site for compliance.
> >
> > Martin Wesley
> > Antonis Ricos
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, 
Polls and
> other resources as they are often being updated. The page is at:
> >
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint
> >
> > Please follow these basic guidelines:
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> > - Include the address of your website, if you have one.
> > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier 
messages to keep
> them short.
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header.
> > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or
> "flames."
> > - Complete your Yahoo profile.
> > - Before posting a question, search the message archives and the 
various
> resources on the homepage.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to 
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
> >