Digital BW, The Print

Nij, fancy bumping in to you!  You are a Gent, thank you very much 
for your help - I will look forward to the samples and get back to 
you (to be honest, they are going to have to be shockingly bad for me 
not to go this route at the moment...)

One more incy wincy question......

I have checked out inkjetmal for the G4 profiles.  They only list a 
handful of papers I can't get / cant afford (for afford, read 
Hahnemuele).  Do you know know where one can get a custom profile 
made for a particular paper?

Thanks


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Nij" <nigel@m...> wrote:
> hi Steve,
> 
> Yes, metamerism, cross-over etc etc are bigger issues the nearer 
you get to
> neutral grey. e.g. a colour image with a magenta cast will not be 
noticed by
> everyone... but 'most' people will notice it is your image is 
predominantly
> 'grey'. So cross-over (where one area of a greyscale is e.g. 
magenta,
> another areas eg green) and metamerism are more of an issue. I have 
now sent
> you some samples, but to be honest... they are not representative 
of what I
> have achieved in the past... with a pro profile. Unfortunately, the 
pro
> profile lost it's avalidity when I was forced to swap printers (and
> actually, I moved from cart to a new CIS ink supply aswell) so just 
about
> everything changed that shouldn't for such a profile to work.
> 
> RIP = Raster Image Processor. Yes, it would replace, or on 
occasion, be in
> addition to the Epson driver. There is a fine-line here. In my 
view, even
> the Piezo plugin (and in fact, the Epson printer driver) are RIPs 
because
> they process raster images (bitmap images) - but it is usually 
associated
> with higher-end products. I'm afraid I currently know little about 
(colour)
> RIPs, but the implication here is that they give you more control 
over the
> way ink is laid down by a printer. e.g. Epson printer driver does 
NOT allow
> you to control CMYK inks individually, but I believe a colour 
RIP 'should'.
> For RIP, read '???' (which probably won't come out on this email so 
read
> '$$$' instead)
> 
> Referring back to point 1 - I hope you understand why I was not 
able to
> spend too much time improving the greyscale print samples!
> 
> Best regards,
> nij
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: scrber [mailto:stephen.bate@m...]
> > Sent: 24 May 2002 13:00
> > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y...
> > Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Gen4 inkset for B&W
> >
> >
> > Right, thanks for the feedback.  A couple more questions if you 
don't
> > mind.  (please bear with me, I am new to this and promise I won't 
be
> > asking such seemingly daft questions in another months time or 
so!)
> >
> > 1 - If I was getting 'acceptable' prints from my colour dye set, 
why
> > would I not be equally as happy with the G4 set?  Will something 
else
> > be different?  Is 'metamerism'a bigger issue in B&W?
> >
> > 2 - GULP.  What is an RIP (if there is an FAQ section I missed,
> > please point me there....), where do I get it/one & will it cost 
me
> > very much?  Does my RIP replace the Espon driver?  What about
> > profiles?
> >
> > 3 - My system is only 3 months old.  If I had to buy another 
printer,
> > I may as well keep my colour one and go hextone for B&W.  Can't
> > afford it for now.  When I can, then the majority of the 
discussion
> > here will be of more relavence.
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Steve