Digital BW, The Print

Martin-

I definitely agree that the new Piezotones are not neutral...I have 
MIS FSN in one printer and the PT in another...huge difference in 
tones.

I may be imagining it, but the warmer tones seem to hold both 
highlight detail and shadow detail a bit better. This could be the 
result of printing them with exactly the same settings and the MIS 
inks probably should be tweaked just a touch.

Cheers,

tom


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Martin Wesley" 
<mwesley250@e...> wrote:
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <sdmey4@a...>
> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y...>
> Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 6:40 AM
> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Lyson vs. piezo inks
> 
> 
> 
> (snip)
> 
> > A note about the new Piezotone inks:
> > Many are under the impression that they are more neutral that the 
original
> > sundance inks.
> > I would have to say, not! The tone is very similar to the original
> inks(warm)
> > with the advantage being
> > better blacks, and prints that come out looking like aged piezo 
prints
> > already seasoned to there final hue.
> > We have all seen the warming effect from piezo, and MIS inks, the
> piezotones
> > come out in a warmish
> > state and that's the way they look 2 months later too.
> 
> Steven,
> 
> I agree with you that the PiezoTone Warm Neutral are not very close 
to
> neutral at all. They should have just left the "Neutral" out of 
name. If
> anyone out there is looking for a neutral ink set, this isn't it.
> 
> I don't find them as warm as the original Piezo or the MIS-FS 
though. Out of
> the printer it is pretty close to the 50/50 blend of FS/FS Neutral 
I tried.
> The PT Warm Neutral sure isn't as warm as some of my aged Piezo 
from last
> year! I have a wedge on H. Torchon that has gone sepia. The warming 
really
> seems heavily paper dependent.
> 
> The Selenium PiezoTones are a reality though and hopefully will be 
available
> for sale July 15th as promised. The Cool Neutral flavor is also 
coming soon.
> I hope that in one of those two (or a combination if you are 
willing to mix)
> there will be something that is closer to neutral than we have seen 
before
> in a Piezo compatible ink set.
> 
> Martin Wesley