Digital BW, The Print

>... paul, another question I need to ask is regarding your
>workflows, if I use the same setups as you did
>(1160, archival matte, MIS VM), would I get the
>same results as yours? or is it also
>dependent on the color configuration of my computer?

The original workflow for the MIS VM inks calls for the "Photoshop 5
Default" color settings under Edit, Color Settings. This includes the sRGB
color space (which, as it turns out, is unfortunate).

I use a PC, so the Mac performance would be different.

I now have a working 1160 again, and I'll probably do a set of "no color
adjustment," Adobe RGB curves that will be cross-platform and not affected
by the PS 7 sRGB conversion glitch.  I will probably do this for the
vm-sepia inkset, which is what I now use and recommend (unless you really
like cold, as opposed to neutral, prints).


>Also from my understanding your workflow is not WYSIWYG, ...

They are not WYSIWYG in the sense that the image is edited in grayscale, so
the tones are not on the screen.  The monitor and the grayscale image can be
as comparable as in the Piezo workflow (and the monitor does not reflect the
tone of that ink either).  In the VM workflow, when you convert to RGB and
apply a tone/partitioning curve for printing, you get a false-color image
that you would not want to work with or save (although I have saved a few
split-tone files in RGB).

I have no idea whether one could make setup that would show the tones in the
VM workflow.  I think it is a minor issue, myself.  I always print draft
copies of images, because I don't consider any monitor good enough to rely
on for a final print.  Sometimes I'll print 4 small versions of the print on
a single 8x10, each with a different curve applied.

Paul
http://www.PaulRoark.com


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  -----Original Message-----
  From: charlesdarwinau [mailto:imaginaryapple@...]
  Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 10:07 PM
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [Digital BW] Re: [newbie] epson 1160 or 1200


  --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Paul Roark"
  <paul.roark@v...> wrote:
  > >... the different manufacturers
  > >providing the inks and also the 4-color 6-color difference.
  >
  > >... I am trying to keep the cost as low as possible, so Piezo is
  > >prolly out of the question, MIS, with its workflows and
  > >new FS and neutral tones sounds better for me (and my wallet).
  >
  > >... here in Australia 1160 are easy to get
  > >compared with 1200, however if hextone offers far
  > >superior quality then I
  > >don't mind spending a bit of time finding a 1200.
  >
  > While some can see the difference in quality between the 1160 and
  the
  > hextones, I prefer the quads -- 1160 and 3000.  They are more
  flexible and
  > easier to load inks into.
  >
  > With the variable-tone inks, the quads don't have a "light" toner
  position.
  > Thus, some see the toner dots in the highlights.  At viewing
  distance and
  > normal viewing conditions, I don't see them.  At very close
  inspection I do.
  > I think the differences with real world prints is minor.  Others may
  > disagree.
  >
  > With the FS inks, which have a very light gray and no toner, I
  really doubt
  > anyone can tell the difference between an 1160 and 1200 output.
  >
  > If you ever want to play with the Piezo driver and inks, the
  hextone Piezo
  > arrangement excludes the Epson driver workflows.  This is a serious
  > limitation, as the Epson workflows have some advantages in some
  > circumstances.  The ability to use alternative drivers and
  workflows can be
  > important, as none is perfect.  When one has a glitch that shows up
  in a
  > particular print, being able to use a different one is really
  nice.  The
  > quads can do this, the hextones cannot.
  >
  > So, I recommend the 1160.




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