Digital BW, The Print

Use the Adobe color space. You won't notice any difference.

Jerry

Paul Roark wrote:
> 
> >... paul, another question I need to ask is regarding your
> >workflows, if I use the same setups as you did
> >(1160, archival matte, MIS VM), would I get the
> >same results as yours? or is it also
> >dependent on the color configuration of my computer?
> 
> The original workflow for the MIS VM inks calls for the "Photoshop 5
> Default" color settings under Edit, Color Settings. This includes the sRGB
> color space (which, as it turns out, is unfortunate).
> 
> I use a PC, so the Mac performance would be different.
> 
> I now have a working 1160 again, and I'll probably do a set of "no color
> adjustment," Adobe RGB curves that will be cross-platform and not affected
> by the PS 7 sRGB conversion glitch.  I will probably do this for the
> vm-sepia inkset, which is what I now use and recommend (unless you really
> like cold, as opposed to neutral, prints).
> 
> >Also from my understanding your workflow is not WYSIWYG, ...
> 
> They are not WYSIWYG in the sense that the image is edited in grayscale, so
> the tones are not on the screen.  The monitor and the grayscale image can be
> as comparable as in the Piezo workflow (and the monitor does not reflect the
> tone of that ink either).  In the VM workflow, when you convert to RGB and
> apply a tone/partitioning curve for printing, you get a false-color image
> that you would not want to work with or save (although I have saved a few
> split-tone files in RGB).
> 
> I have no idea whether one could make setup that would show the tones in the
> VM workflow.  I think it is a minor issue, myself.  I always print draft
> copies of images, because I don't consider any monitor good enough to rely
> on for a final print.  Sometimes I'll print 4 small versions of the print on
> a single 8x10, each with a different curve applied.
> 
> Paul
> http://www.PaulRoark.com
> 
> _______________________________________________
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: charlesdarwinau [mailto:imaginaryapple@...]
>   Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 10:07 PM
>   To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
>   Subject: [Digital BW] Re: [newbie] epson 1160 or 1200
> 
>   --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Paul Roark"
>   <paul.roark@v...> wrote:
>   > >... the different manufacturers
>   > >providing the inks and also the 4-color 6-color difference.
>   >
>   > >... I am trying to keep the cost as low as possible, so Piezo is
>   > >prolly out of the question, MIS, with its workflows and
>   > >new FS and neutral tones sounds better for me (and my wallet).
>   >
>   > >... here in Australia 1160 are easy to get
>   > >compared with 1200, however if hextone offers far
>   > >superior quality then I
>   > >don't mind spending a bit of time finding a 1200.
>   >
>   > While some can see the difference in quality between the 1160 and
>   the
>   > hextones, I prefer the quads -- 1160 and 3000.  They are more
>   flexible and
>   > easier to load inks into.
>   >
>   > With the variable-tone inks, the quads don't have a "light" toner
>   position.
>   > Thus, some see the toner dots in the highlights.  At viewing
>   distance and
>   > normal viewing conditions, I don't see them.  At very close
>   inspection I do.
>   > I think the differences with real world prints is minor.  Others may
>   > disagree.
>   >
>   > With the FS inks, which have a very light gray and no toner, I
>   really doubt
>   > anyone can tell the difference between an 1160 and 1200 output.
>   >
>   > If you ever want to play with the Piezo driver and inks, the
>   hextone Piezo
>   > arrangement excludes the Epson driver workflows.  This is a serious
>   > limitation, as the Epson workflows have some advantages in some
>   > circumstances.  The ability to use alternative drivers and
>   workflows can be
>   > important, as none is perfect.  When one has a glitch that shows up
>   in a
>   > particular print, being able to use a different one is really
>   nice.  The
>   > quads can do this, the hextones cannot.
>   >
>   > So, I recommend the 1160.
> 
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