----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Olson" <jerryolson@...> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 8:53 AM Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Photo Rag longevity versus EHM with Epson dye inks? > Martin, which epson papers would be good for the 1280 dye inks (26 year > life)? Heavyweight matte isn't nearly heavy enough, and it is too ivory > colored to be useful. > Jerry, I really don't know on that one. I would probably stick to Epson's recommendations since it is their ink. I have been using Epson's ColorLife paper for the family snapshots but I don't know if you would like the RC pearl type finish. Maybe someone on the Archical Color group has some suggestions. Martin Wesley http://www.borderless-photos.de/guests.html > > > Martin Wesley wrote: > > > > Mitch, > > > > For the dye inks I would stick to the Epson papers. It has long been > > understood that the chemicals used to buffer archival papers and mat board > > would damage color dye materials such as dye transfer prints or textiles > > dyed with vegetable dyes. > > > > The Hahnemuhle papers appear to be fully buffered to a pH of 8.0+ and this > > buffering, while extremely good for the life of the paper, may be harmful to > > the life of the color dye image. > > > > While the carbon pigment inks in theory are immune to the effects of the > > buffering agents, I wonder if that is the reason prints on H. papers warm > > more than on EAM. > > > > There is also the nature and pH of the coatings used on inkjet papers and > > how they interact with the inks. All of this is proprietary information and > > we really don't know what will happen over the long haul. > > > > Martin Wesley > > > > http://www.borderless-photos.de/guests.html > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Mitch Alland" <malland@...> > > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 6:32 PM > > Subject: [Digital BW] Photo Rag longevity versus EHM with Epson dye inks? > > > > > [Although this question concerns color inks, I am posting it here as I had > > no response on the Epson printer color forum.] > > > > > > In the Sep 28, 2001 "newsletter" on www.inkjetart.com there was a report > > based on Epson information that the life of Epson 1280 (dye) inks on Epson > > Heavyweight Matte was much longer (25 years) than on Epson Archival Matte > > (10 years), as the latter works better with pigment inks. > > > > > > Does anyone know what is the situation with Epson 1280 dye inks with > > Hahnemuehle Photo Rag: is the lonegevity shorter than with Epson Heavyweight > > Matte, along the lines of Epson Archival Matte? > > > > > > --Mitch/Bangkok > > > > > > > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and > > other resources as they are often being updated. 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Re: [Digital BW] Photo Rag longevity versus EHM with Epson dye inks?
2002-07-13 by Martin Wesley
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