Digital BW, The Print

On 7/13/02 8:04 AM, "Todd Morton" <toddm@...> wrote:

> 
> Richard,
> 
> I also spray them right away with Kraylon - give plenty of air it has
> toluene (very bad) in it. BTW do any of the other sprays that give good
> results not have toluene?

Dry them for 24 hours in a rack and then spray...otherwise you may wind up
with long term fogging of the image...I've seen this on several prints.

> WRT Robert's comments. I get much different and, IMHO, better results with
> these papers than Ultima Satin. I have only tried a couple Brightcube
> samples. There doesn't seem to be a Conetech profile that does well with
> it and I don't have time to fool around with curves - this is not my real
> job :-)

The dmax is better on the Ilford Smooth Pearl than on the Ultima...but the
image softness is similar.  The Ilford classic smooth is made for pigments,
the classic is for dyes.

The Brightcube Semi-Matte gives slightly lower dmax than the Ilford Smooth
Pearl...but the sprayed dmax is the same and the images are much sharper.
The paper is also infinitely easier to handle...you can literally blow the
quad inks off of the Ilford.  None of the cone profiles are perfect for any
of these papers...in fact his profiles for the gloss papers he does support
(e.g., Epson Premium Gloss and Luster) are not good on those papers...but
with a custom dot density curve you can make them work.  I've printed quads
on every major gloss/semigloss paper and the best one with the quad inks are
Brightcube Semi-Matte and Generations Prophoto Lustre.  This takes into
account dmax, image sharpness and handling ease.  There is a significant
need for good profiles though...but Cone doesn't seem to be interested
because the papers need to be sprayed.

My 2 cents,

Robert

> 
> On Fri, 12 Jul 2002, Richard Sintchak wrote:
> 
>> Friday, July 12, 2002, 11:44:39 AM, Todd Morton wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> TM> I have used the Ilford Classic Pearl Paper with FS inks and piezo driver.
>> TM> I spray it with Krylon. It is my favorite semi-gloss/pearl paper so far
>> TM> after trying Contech, EPSON, Brightcube, HP, and Kodak Ultima semigloss
>> TM> papers. It also doesn't seem to smudge as much either but I still spray
>> TM> it.
>> 
>> TM> Next time I'm going to try their other pearl paper.
>> 
>> TM> -Todd Morton
>> 
>> 
>> Todd,
>> 
>> I have both Ilford Classic Pearl and Smooth Pearl and may want to try
>> this.  Which spray do you recommend and how to spray?  Do I need to
>> spray immediately after it prints or wait for it to dry first?  Also,
>> how does it look to you?
>> 
>> Best regards,
>>  Richard  
>>