----- Original Message ----- From: "Truman Prevatt" <tprevatt@...> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2002 11:36 AM Subject: Re: [Digital BW] choice between 1280 with PiezoTone carts vs. Epson 2200 for b/w output > > Florescent light is the worst possible choice of lighting to use to > evaluate a print of any kind. A selenium toned print is cool to cold in > tone which means it's toward the blue end of the spectrum. I prefer > this, but that is a personal preference. Truman, Unfortunately you will find fluorescent lighting in many galleries and in office setting. So if you have any interest in selling through those channels you need to have prints that still look good under that light, unpleasant as it is. > > Another question I have is how much control over the coolness of the > selenium hues do you have with the Pezo system. Are there profiles that > allow you to cool or warm the prints the same as you could in the > darkroom by controlling the toner and time in toner or is what you get > what you get? > > > I to have your same quandry and would be interested in seeing the answers. > You have no control over the hue of the print with the Piezo system other than paper choice. This seems to have more of an effect with the Selenium PT than some of the other inks. The blue in the grays shows up strongly on cool or neutral papers such as EAM, Legion Photo Matte or Eclipse Satine. On warm papers like German Etching, William Turner or Museo the amount of yellow in the paper base color knocks out a lot of the blue you get a much warmer print that is also less magenta as well. Photo Rag seems to fall in between and is a choice I personally like. The other possibility will be to combine inks from the three different PiezoTone ink sets for a different look or to actually do some ink blending. I did some trials like this with MIS-FS and was able to get some interesting new hues. Martin Wesley > > > > So, I printed a sample b/w print on a 2200 yesterday at the camera > > store in > > town, and noted that there was still a problem with metamerism, as the > > print > > (on epson watercolor paper, and glossy) was definately purplish under > > fluoro > > lights, but relatively neutral outdoors. Under a loupe, the print was > > rather > > good with minimal apparent dots (not that different than grain). But, > > unfortunately it was hard to judge based on one print. Plus, they > > didn't have > > the matte black in the printer. > > > > My aim is to primarily print b/w images, that could potentially be > > exhibited or > > sold and can hold up to silver images. Is the 2200 there yet ? If > > not, can > > others reassure me about positive experiences with the 1280 and the PT > > carts. 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Re: [Digital BW] choice between 1280 with PiezoTone carts vs. Epson 2200 for b/w output
2002-08-03 by Martin Wesley
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