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Re: [Digital BW] Piezotones on Various Papers

2002-08-17 by Martin Wesley

Robert,

I tried all the same papers except the Osprey and I would generally agree
with your assessment although I favor the Photo Rag. The Hahnemuhle, EAM and
Crane are the top picks from what I have seen so far. The range in resulting
hue across this papers is quite large, as you say, making both inks very
versatile.

Martin Wesley

http://www.borderless-photos.de/guests.html



----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Morrison" <rmorrison@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Piezotones on Various Papers


> Cross-posted
>
> One addition to the line up below is Red River Premium Matte, which is an
> inexpensive optically brightened paper.  It is the coolest Selenium
> Piezotone print I have seen so far...but still less blue than FS-N on EAM.
> Black is a respectable 3.
>
> Robert
>
> On 8/16/02 2:02 PM, "Robert Morrison" <rmorrison@...> wrote:
>
> > I just completed a paper screen with the new Selenium Piezotones.  My
intent
> > is to share my impressions of the relative tone of the Seleniums on
various
> > papers and then put them in perspective to the Neutral Warm Piezotones.
In
> > addition, I'd say that the MIS FS-N inks are blue and cool and the
original
> > Cone inks and MIS FS inks are warm (when fully warmed over the course of
> > several weeks) when compared to my "Cool" and "Warm" labels below.
> >
> > My observations are based on observing a continuous gray ramp, a gray
wedge
> > and two test prints printed with custom profiles for Imageprint.  All
prints
> > were produced with an Epson 7000.
> >
> > I have also read dmax for these paper/ink combinations.  I'm sharing
> > relative black ratings instead of actual dmax figures...because of
> > variability between various densitometers.  I'm reading dmax with the
> > density setting on my spectrocam spectrophotomer.  5 is the top rating
for
> > black and 1 is the bottom rating.  The spread on my spectrophotometer is
> > about .25 dmax units.  It is difficult to see differences in black of 1
> > unit...but you can see the difference in 2 units.  Also by way of
reference,
> > the best black that I got with the piezo driver and FS or the original
cone
> > inks would have been a 3 on Photorag...Osprey would have been a -2.
> > Somerset Velvet (uncoated Iris paper) on the old inks would have been
about
> > -4 and -2 with the new inks.
> >
> > Here are the papers listed from Cool to Warm with black ratings at the
end.
> >
> > Cool
> > SelPT--Brightcube Eclipse Velvet or Satine Bright White--1 black
> > SelPT--Epson Archival Matte (Epson Enhanced Matte)--4 black
> > SelPT--Hahnemuhle Photorag (Media Street Royal Renasainse)--4.5 black
> > SelPT--Hawk Mountain Merlin--2 black
> > NWPT--Epson Archival Matte (Epson Enhanced Matte)--4 black
> > SelPT--Hawk Mountain Osprey--1 black
> > SelPT--Legion Somerset Enhanced--3.7 black
> > SelPT--Brightcube Eclipse Soft White--2 black
> > SelPT--Crane Museo--4 black
> > SelPT--Hahnemuhle William Turner (Media Street Royal Jazz, Conetech
Wells
> > river)--5 black
> > NWPT--Hahnemuhle Photorag (Media Street Royal Renasainse)--4.5 black
> > NWPT--Hawk Mountain Osprey--1 black
> > NWPT--SelPT--Brightcube Eclipse Soft White--2 black
> > NWPT--Crane Museo--4 black
> > NWPT--Hahnemuhle William Turner (Media Street Royal Jazz, Conetech Wells
> > river)--5 black
> > Warm
> >
> > Roughly speaking the tones of inks follow the whiteness of the paper.
The
> > Brightcube Bright White and EAM are loaded with optical brighteners and
thus
> > are very white...the Photorag has the next largest quantity of
> > brighteners...etc.  Perhaps of greatest interest is the cross over where
the
> > ink tone for the NWPT on EAM actually crosses into the SelPT lineup.
I've
> > had several other sets of eyes take a look at these prints and they
> > essentially agree with my ratings.
> >
> > Hope this helps,
> >
> > Robert
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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