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Re: [Digital BW] Ink choices

2002-09-13 by bjpm77

I have to agree with Martin and Paul about getting new carts for 
your CIS when switching inks. Alas, I did it the cheap way -- just 
swapping from PiezoTone WN to MIS FSN in my 1280. I ran a bunch of 
purge patterns on 11X17 cheapo paper until the tone color 
stabilized. The problem? Where I rarely had to run cleaning cycles 
before the swap, I now need to run one or two cycles at startup each 
day. I don't think this can be attributed to the MIS inks, either. I 
use the FSN inks in a 2000P and I haven't had to run cleaning cycles 
in weeks. Fortunately, after the 1280 heads are cleaned there seems 
to be no additional problems with output. However, I'm always 
worrying and wondering. I think new carts would alleviate much of 
the worry.
BJ
--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Martin Wesley" 
<mwesley250@e...> wrote:
> > >At this point, until more info comes in on the 2200, the front 
runner
> would
> > >be a hybrid set of the MIS FSN black, the most warm/fade 
resistant black
> > >ink, and the Selenium or Warm-Neutral PiezoTone gray inks, 
which gave the
> > >most warm/fade resistant mid tones.
> >
> > The very mixed reports on the PiezoTone inks are of great 
concern.
> 
> Bruce,
> 
> Indeed they are but at this time the problem seems to be limited 
to the
> black ink and certain batches of 1280 carts.
> >
> > I am about to set up a CIS with the MIS FSN-K and PiezoTone CMY 
on an
> > 1160. I also have some regular FS-K--is that the same 
formulation as
> > the black ink in FSN? I'm thinking of swapping out the PiezoTone 
Warm
> > Neutral black for the regular FS black on another 1160 that 
already
> > has the PT inks installed. Can I just replace the bottles and 
let the
> > change happen over time, or do I need a new cart and flushing of 
the
> > tubing?
> >
> > Paul? Martin?
> >
> With a CIS I would always replace the cartridge protion of the CIS 
and flush
> the line when changing to a different ink. There are enough 
difficulties
> without dealing with  blends of ink in your system. Keep in mind 
that the
> MIS-FS standard and FS neutral blacks are the same.
> 
> Martin

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