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Re: [Digital BW] Ultrachrome grey, where does it belong in a quad ?

2002-10-05 by Robert Morrison

At this point I don't think that the Ultrachrome black is the answer because
of its very limited paper compatibility.  Seems like a more interesting
option for a new variable tone set would be Cone's new museum black...but
we'll have to see how well that fades...and how the dmax varies across
papers...there there is the problem that its a cone product and VM is an MIS
product...big problem...and from what Cone has said...he has an exclusive on
that technology...but who knows.

Robert

 On 10/4/02 8:28 AM, "Paul Roark" <paul.roark@...> wrote:

> Ernst,
> 
> You wrote:
> 
>> If Ultrachrome black and grey are used in a quad would the grey be the
>> second in density ...
> 
> I have been waiting for the MIS clones to see what we could do with it.  I
> assume that the clone UC ink is at least an accurate density and viscosity
> match for the real thing, and it would be a lot cheaper for me to do my
> playing around with free inks.  However, once a good quad mix is found,
> buying some UC to see (be sure) it is easy to substitute is the obvious next
> move.
> 
>> The idea is that on a 3000 with a CIS it would be possible
>> to bring five ink lines near the head. 3 greys based on the
>> Ultrachrome grey + the two
>> Ultrachrome blacks: photo and mat. That is a fade proof
>> pigment set with mat and gloss printing possible without
>> much ink loss in the ink change.
> 
> I'm not sure how the CIS lines near the head would work. I've never gotten
> that far into the mechanics of the machine.
> 
> Even with the current, unmodified 3000, however, switching would not be too
> bad.  Since we can clean just the black, we can drain that line in 3
> cleaning cycles without any "color" ink being wasted.  That is a whole lot
> better than the 7600 -- which will cost the price of a full cart of ink when
> the blacks are switched.
> 
>> The advantage of the 3000 is that it cleans the black head separately.
> 
> I don't understand why Epson did not design the 7600/9600 to clean only the
> black head/line.  Again, it sounds like the various design departments at
> Epson just do not talk to each other.
> 
>> A VM set would be possible too.
> 
> Absolutely.  The vm-s is my first target.  However, I also have some ideas
> that might get us some much tougher standard quads at MIS prices.  (The UC
> clones are more expensive.)  With any luck, we will see some more quality
> improvements in quads this year.
> 
> Paul
> http://www.PaulRoark.com
> 
> 
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