Martin, I've had a X-rite 810 for several years now. Your 811 is even a better instrument. RGB does equal CMY. R= -C, G= -M, B= -Y. For B&W negs, the 811 should have a visual density (grey) mode. On the 810, this is labeled T-VIS in the display. You would use Status M color densities for process control of C41 neg films, and Status A densities for E6. The reflective mode should be Status A for reading prints. If your unit did not come with a manual, you can buy one from X-rite. You also need transmission and reflective calibration wedges from them as well. Lloyd -----Original Message----- From: Martin Wesley [mailto:mwesley250@...] Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2002 2:00 AM To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Digital BW] Reflective Densitometer Method I am fooling around with a used X-Rite 811 transmission/refection densitometry I picked up on eBay and I have a couple of questions for any experts on sensitometry lurking out there. In reading reflective density of inkjet prints there is the issue that the paper is not completely opaque. You can see light though even the heaviest papers we are using. So when measuring image density the print being measured needs to be backed up with an opaque material. My question is should this be white, as in stacking up several pieces of paper under the print or should it be black? My inclination is to use black so that no light that passes through the paper gets bounced back, since this would logically seem to falsely increase the reflectance and lower the density reading. The calibration plaques are enameled metal so I assume the instrument expects to see a 100% opaque reflective target. Dumb question: How do you convert RGB densities to CMY densities or do they simply equal their color opposites? The 811 has two transmission modes, one for E-6 and one for C-41. Which would be the best for standard developed B&W film? Which mode would be best for yellow/green stained pyro developed B&W film? Martin Wesley http://www.borderless-photos.de/guests.html [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT <http://rd.yahoo.com/M=229441.2397090.3822005.2273195/D=egroupweb/S=1705 019182:HM/A=1189558/R=0/*http://www.bmgmusic.com/acq/ee/q6/enroll/mhn/9/ > <http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=229441.2397090.3822005.2273195/D=egrou pmail/S=:HM/A=1189558/rand=711387265> Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and other resources as they are often being updated. The page is at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. Please follow these basic guidelines: - Include your full name with your message. - Include the address of your website, if you have one. - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. - As the topic of a thread changes remember to change the subject header. - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or &amp;quot;flames.&amp;quot; - Complete your Yahoo profile. - Before posting a question, search the message archives and the various resources on the homepage. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> . [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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RE: [Digital BW] Reflective Densitometer Method
2002-10-19 by Lloyd O'Daniel
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