Digital BW, The Print

I just recieved my 1280 a few months ago and loaded it with MIS VM and 
down loaded the curves off the DigitalBW files and the MIS site. I've 
started with EAM. While I am not a big fan of mat paper - I never used 
the mat format in the wet darkroom, MIS VM and EAM do produce very nice 
highlights. Prints made with this combination give the same "glow" in 
the highlights as silver prints. Prints of images that are about the 
highlights do as well as the silver printed version ( what I've been 
doing is scanning my 4x5 negs so I have prints in both formats ). But 
prints of images about shadows and darks don't fair as well in the ink 
jet world as they do in the silver print world - at least I can't seem 
to make them.

Where I am disapointed is in the shadows. While the shadow details are 
very nice, there are no deep shadows.  I may try the Gen 4 black as 
someone suggested. I've got a few different papers on order to try, but 
I wanted to get good results on one paper that was pretty standard 
before I started experimenting.

Following the chatter on this list this problem seems to be more of an 
issue with the papers than any other single factor. But I'm pleased 
enough that I'm going to keep plugging.

Truman

>  Hi fellows 
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>  Yes I am frustrated. I have bee searching for the holy Grail for so 
>  long and finally I am close to give up. After many tries I am still 
>  very far from a decent B&W photo. I have not tried 2200 yet and some 
>  people find the result quite good but I don't think I would get rid 
>  of the terrible metamerism that ALL printer suffer. 
>
>  Some say That Image Print 5 solves the problem. May be but after 
>  spending so much money on printers,inks and papers I think I have to 
>  put a limit on my spendings. My girlfriend is already going crazy 
>  with all the money that I have pulled out in my holy task. 
>
>  After trying different papers on HP and Epson ( HP designjet 10ps 
>  and EPSON 1290 ) I can say that they badly suffer from 
>  metamerism...even if I print only black ink. Both printer have a 
>  nice resolution and make stuning colour pictures but not in B&W when 
>  you have a nice neutral print under tungsten light it get an awful 
>  green cast under daylight. This happens also with only black ink. By 
>  the way of all the combinations I tried...1290 only black ink with 
>  Premium Semigloss Photo Paper gives the best result, second is Color 
>  Life and third Premium Glossy photo. But the black ink is not 
>  metamerism free so again it's not an option for me. Also with only 
>  black ink you get lots of dots on highlight areas.
>
>  With colour ink metamerism is even worse.......but you get better 
>  transitions and no dots.
>
>  I also bought MIS Quadtones VM and worked with Paul Roark workflow 
>  with Epson Archival Matte and Crane's Museo. I tell you I was never 
>  more dissapointed in my life. Now I understand that so many 
>  galleries don't want inkjet prints. It's not about longevity, it's 
>  about quality. Pictures with MIS and EAM are drawings not photos. 
>  Under my point of view they are sooooo far away from Fiber based 
>  prints. 
>
>  Tomorrow I will get some photos done on a LAMBDA Laser Lab. With R4 
>  photographic process and on a luster paper I cross my hands that 
>  finally I will get some decent results (I would be happy if they are 
>  decent not even good).
>
>  I know that 2200 with IP5 might be the solution but as I said my 
>  wallet is too tired. 
>
>  So....I don't know....may be Epson will come out with great B&W inks 
>  some day. The resolution is there, the papers are there......the 
>  INKS ARE NOT THERE. 
>
>  By the way...I am photojournalist. I have been developing my B&W 
>  photo for 6 years now. And I think that a good fiber or even RC is 
>  light years ahead of any ink print I have seen so far. That's only 
>  my radical point of view. I guess some will support this statement 
>  and some will think I am crazy. 
>
>  I can only tell you I am frustrated.
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