Digital BW, The Print

Keith, out of curiosity, can anyone agree on the exact longevity of the
term "Archival" ? Is there so many years a print has to exist with no
changes at all to be called that?  How about museums?  When they
announce that they use "Archival Mattes" How long must they last before
they show signs of yellowing?

Many years ago I bought an Ansel Adams print, (dogwood blossoms), at the
Yosemite Gallery.  It was mounted on an "Archival" Matboard, and there
is an "Archival" Museum Quality Window Matte overlaying the image. Well,
over the years the mat has most definitely yellowed, and quite a bit. 
The white dogwood blossoms are pure white.  The difference is obvious.
So even if something is labeled "Archival" it probably will be many
years before we can know if that is true or not. I just have this
feeling that no inkjet prints are at the present time, truly archival. 

But if they last as long as a silver print, maybe that's good enough.

Jerry





"Editor P.O.V. Image Service" wrote:
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> Loris Medici wrote:
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> >
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: Editor P.O.V. Image Service [mailto:editor@...]
> >>Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 10:18 AM
> >>To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> >>Subject: Re: [Digital BW] EAM or Enhanced EAM?
> >>
> >>...
> >>
> >>It's the same paper, simply renamed and without a logo on the back.
> >>
> >>...
> >>
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> >
> >I have 3 packs of european size EAM (1 x A3+, 2 x A4) and all are
> >without logo on the back. So, "being logoless" is not a specific
> >property of the so named *new* EEM.
> >
> >
> >
> OK, let's leave the logo out of it...
> 
> The fact remains it is STILL the same paper...
> 
> Chris Bair (InkJetArt.com) knows/says that, and the product manager for
> EPSON pro consumables in the US confirmed it at Photo Plus Expo East in
> November and, AFAIK, Jerry Olson's tests show that...
> 
> I hope that's good enough..
> 
>  From what I hear from as they say "reliable sources," after the latest
> Wilhelm test data came back, EPSON chose to change the name from
> "Archival" (especially given Euro "Blue Wool #6 or better" concerns) to
> "Enhanced" to avoid potential legal issues involved in calling a paper
> "Archival" which was not literally "archival"..
> Keith
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> "Just some guy," and founder of the Multiverse's largest EPSON printer
> User Community (highly recommended by Vogon Poets and MegaDodo
> Publications), at:
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> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EPSONx7x_Printers/
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> guys"
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