Digital BW, The Print

Roger,
 Thanks for the input. At this point I need all the
help I can get. I have not tried a duotone set up. So
far in color all I've done is color adjustments to the
tone I want and then just a straight printout. I
haven't been really pleased with the shadows with this
method which is why I went to the sepia inks. Can you
give me any hints on printing with the duotone set up?
Thanks,
Evelyn
--- Roger L Sopher <rlsopher@...> wrote:
> Hi Evelyn,
> 
> Pardon me for jumping in. I had a similar problem in
> getting the degree of sepia that I had envisioned
> the image and ended up going back to a color inkset
> (MIS Perpetual, which is archival) on a second
> printer that I use for color anyway. That has given
> me pretty much the effect I wanted using the
> photoshop duotone set up. I found the Keith Krebs
> quadtone set a good starting place. They are more to
> the red end of things rather than a VanDyke brown
> kind of tint but I would guess that some tweaking
> could get around that. The Lyson small gamut inkset
> can get you to a fair sepia but I don't know about
> its archival properties. 
> 
> Roger
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: Evelyn Grant [mailto:ingamom@...]
>   Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 1:03 PM
>   To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
>   Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Cone Sepia and Selenium
> inks
> 
> 
>   Thanks for the reply Eleanor. I'm just not getting
> any
>   brown tones at all with the carbon sepia inks.
> Just
>   very warm b&w. I'm not familiar with the Agfa
> Classic,
>   in the darkroom I used Kodak Ektalure paper and it
>   would tone a gorgeous golden brown with brown
> toner.
>   I'm going to try the MIS VMS inks and see what I
> get
>   from them. Thanks again.
>   Evelyn
>   --- "eleanor77027 <elliebrown@...>"
>   <elliebrown@...> wrote:
>   > Evelyn the tone of my Cone carbon sepia prints
> on
>   > the Photo Rag 308 is 
>   > almost identical to the tone of my silver prints
>   > printed on Agfa Classic toned 
>   > on Kodak Brown Toner.  The carbon sepia tone is
> the
>   > most beautiful brown 
>   > tone I've ever seen--a rich very warm brown that
> is
>   > not plagued with the 
>   > greenish/yellow/orange tint of many sepia prints
>   > done with other inks/media/
>   > toners, etc.  eleanor
>   > 
>   > 
>   > --- In
> DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com,
>   > Evelyn Grant <
>   > ingamom@y...> wrote:
>   > > Eleanor,
>   > > 
>   > > I am using the piezotone carbon sepia with
> Photo
>   > Rag
>   > > 308 and I'm not seeing any real brown tones.
> Are
>   > you
>   > > getting really brown prints or are they just
> warm
>   > > black & whites?
>   > > 
>   > > Evelyn
>   > > --- "eleanor77027 <elliebrown@a...>"
>   > > <elliebrown@a...> wrote:
>   > > > I have been struggling with what to do with
>   > digital
>   > > > black and white
>   > > > printing (I'm 
>   > > > a silver printer at heart) for a long time
> and
>   > with
>   > > > the advent of the
>   > > > new cone 
>   > > > piezotone carbon sepia and selenium inks I
> will
>   > > > probably sell my
>   > > > darkroom 
>   > > > equipment in the near future.  the tone of
> these
>   > > > inks is nothing
>   > > > short of 
>   > > > exquisite on the Ham. Photo Rag 308 and the
>   > Kodak
>   > > > Ultima Satin.  The 
>   > > > Kodak paper allows the inks to dry and the
> ink
>   > > > doesn't rub off but
>   > > > this smooth 
>   > > > surface satin paper does need to be sprayed
> or
>   > > > brushed with a
>   > > > lacquer.  and 
>   > > > of course the Photo Rag 308 is awesome.
>   > > > 
>   > > > My 1280 printer is working well with these
> inks
>   > and
>   > > > I haven't
>   > > > developed any 
>   > > > serious clogs like I did with the original
> Piezo
>   > > > inks.  eleanor brown
>   > > > 
>   > > > 
>   > > 
>   > > 
>   > >
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