Paul, can the Cone museum black be used with the MIS VM set? I have been using the VM set for most of a year now but left anywhere near a south window fades warm in just a short time. Vinny http://wulfsden.com --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" <paul.roark@v...> wrote: > Doug, > > >>The experimental quad I've mixed with the Epson Archival pigment > >>uses no color dyes or color pigments, is dead neutral from > >>45%-55%, and about 0.01 unit warm outside that range (plus or > >>minus 0.01 unit depending on other random factors). > >>It seemed to run very well on my 1160.<< > > >So is this experimental quad for your 1160 made of the > >your special brew for black and then three normal VM or > >VM-S pigments in the other carts/positions? > > No, the diluted Epson Archival Black pigment is for the midtones. > > It's not really my special brew. All I did was dilute the standard Epson > Archival Black with clear base in the appropriate ratios (the hard part) to > get the densities that would run with Piezo software. It can also be > printed with the Epson driver. I consider the PiezoBW ink densities to be a > good standard starting place. There are lots of those drivers (which are > now rather cheap) and lots of Epson workflows for that type of inkset. > > I published the entire formula on this forum, although that one is a draft > that is not the final mix. > > The fact that the image formed with this inkset (if the Archival black is > also in the black position) is composed of 100% Epson Archival black pigment > is part of it's value. I can't afford a Wilhelm test, but Epson can. No > collector/high end purchaser is going to be comfortable with "Paul's special > brew." On the other hand, the Epson pigments, with all the Epson > advertising hype and Wilhelm tests behind them, should be a relatively easy > thing for purchasers to accept. > > For the black position, use whatever black you like. For glossy paper or > the ultimate in print longevity, I recommend the Epson Archival black. For > matte paper the FS-K, Epson UltraChrome Matte black, Cone Museum black ... > are all fine candidates. The FS-K continues to be the best value; the Epson > Archival K is the toughest (but weak on matte paper); the UC Matte black is > excellent on some papers (a bit warm and printed in a wavy manner on my > 1160); and the Cone Museum black looks very nice, tested well in Cones fade > test, and is what I may well use for most of my matte paper printing. (I > like the fact that the Museum black, according to Jon Cone, is pure carbon. > I can spray it with a light B72 fixative (with it's alleged 400 year > stability) and call the print an "encapsulated carbon pigment" giclee -- > marketing.) > > > If so, do you just use your standard VM or VM-S curves for > >printing? > > This initial Epson Archival inkset is an FS/Piezo-compatible inkset. > Variable-tone inksets (UC-class standard vm and Archival vm-s) will probably > follow. > > > Does it allow you to print on surfaces other than matte (glossy, > >semi matte)? > > I will probably no longer design any inkset that does not print on glossy, > but we still have to deal with the black ink switching -- just like the > UltraChrome printers. That is the new standard, in my view -- no dyes at > all (thus no significant warming) and glossy paper compatibility for the > midtones. (And there are very affordable third-party pigments that do this > in beta now.) > > >> I think it's time to open up easy glossy printing to B&W.<< > > >Amen to that! > > I think the RC prints have their place. I still like matte, however. > > Paul > http://www.PaulRoark.com
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Re: [Digital BW] Permanence Paul
2003-01-16 by Vincent Orlando <orlandovl@hotmail.com>
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