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[Digital BW] Re: 2200 IP5 Grayscale (Andrew)

2003-01-18 by jim hayes <jimhayes@frii.com>

Yes Robert. In fact I've only done one print to try to get it to show 
up, so I wasn't really trying on the color end. But I didn't see 
anything there on the one sample, FWIW.

I just received both color and b&w profiles for Eclipse at 95% and 90% 
 ink reduction. The 95% color curves are for 2880 if your interested 
in that, and the 90% color curves are for 1440. I also got grey curves 
for 100, 95, and 90% at 1440, and grey curves for 2880 at 95% ink 
reduction.

So there's lots to play with now for Eclipse (!!). I suspect if you 
asked Colorbyte you could get the downloads if you wanted to run more 
tests.

I won't know if the new profiles solve my mottling for greyscale. I 
need to let my samples dry for a day or three. Right now the 90% at 
1440 looks best.
Jim H.




--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Robert Morrison 
<rmorrison@p...> wrote:
> Jim,
> 
> Just to clarify...the mottling problem that you are having with 
Eclipse and
> the 2200 is a problem with gray pigment prints...correct?...because 
I
> haven't seen a mottling problem for color output with IP and the 
2200.
> 
> Robert
> 
> On 1/17/03 10:48 AM, "jim hayes <jimhayes@f...>" <jimhayes@f...>
> wrote:
> 
> > Yes Andrew I had heard on this list, I believe from you about the 
2880
> > vs 1440 variable dot thing, and I assumed it certainly applied to 
the
> > 1280 and 1160 printers.
> > 
> > But I wasn't sure of the 2200 on IP5 RIP.
> > 
> > I sent an 8x10 print through at 1440 and at 2880 (although I 
didn't
> > have an actual profile for 2880 at the time-I do now). 7 minutes 
for
> > 1440 and 15 1/2 minutes for 2880.
> > 
> > I did notice one positive thing to the slower speed, even though I 
was
> > using the wrong profile: mottling on Eclipse paper is less. 
However I
> > am about to get 90% ink reduction curves for this paper and 
hopefully
> > this will cure the mottling at 1440. I was using 95% ink reduction 
and
> > it helped much over the standard 100%.
> > 
> > Colorbyte now has 2880 profiles for Photorag posted on their site 
and
> > they are just finishing ones for Eclipse Satine. From what you 
say, it
> > sounds as if I should be just using the 1440 90% ink reduction on
> > Eclipse. The Photorag seems fine without reducing it's %ink.
> > 
> > One other question: do you know if IP5 prints at 1440 x 1440 or is 
it
> > somethiing other like 1440 x 720? TIA
> > Jim H.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >> 
> >> Andrew Rodney wrote:
> >>> on 1/16/03 9:45 PM, jim hayes:
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>>> A few days ago Colorbyte e-mailed me an update which allows mat
> > paper
> >>>> printing at 2880 (even though it looks as if it's available in 
the
> >>>> pull down). No profiles for mat paper at 2880 exist yet AFAIK
> > though.
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> You do NOT want to print at 2880. First, with IP or the Epson
> > driver it
> >>> takes forever but worse, you lose variable dot dither. The 2880 
is
> > IMHO more
> >>> a high figure to look good to marketing than anything else. 
Print
> > with IP at
> >>> 1440; you'll get a better print and in far less time.
> >>> 
> >>> Andrew Rodney 
> >>> 
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