it is a good place to start. Unlike piezo - if you try and use coloured ink to print greyscale the inks have to be firing together so that a 50% grey is a 50% grey without a colour cast. A RIP would allow you to linearise the inks, AND do custom profiles. IP5 will NOT allow you to either linearise the inks for your printer OR do custom profiles - you need them to do it for you. But even they cannot linearise the inks. Also IP5 is not a CMYK RIP, only RGB so it doesn't have the control over the blacks that a true CMYK RIP would have. But without a custom profile for your printer/ink/paper combo you really don't stand a chance of BW. You'll also need to profile your monitor too to make sure that the casts you see on screen are 'true'. Julian ----- Original Message ----- From: <dtilson@...> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 4:52 PM Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Trying Black Only printing > No. Will good custom profiles solve the problem? > > Dave > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Julian Thomas" > <julianthomas@t...> wrote: > > have you had a profile made for the 2200?? > > > > Julian > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <dtilson@m...> > > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 4:23 PM > > Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Trying Black Only printing > > > > > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "danielstaver > > > <daniel@p...>" <daniel@p...> wrote: > > > > If my Gray Balancer software is switched on when I do BO > printing I > > > > get really ugly transitions in the highlights just like you > > > describe. > > > > Check if there is any type of color management software > runnning in > > > > the background that interferes with your printing. I'm not > familiar > > > > with the Canon, so I'm afraid I can't be more specific. > > > > > > > > BO prints can look extremely good, I have one of Clayton's > prints > > > and > > > > you couldn't possibly ask for anything better. Smooth tones, > > > excellent > > > > shadows and highlights, and a certain sharpness in small details > > > that > > > > look different from full-color BW prints. Yes, the dots are > there, > > > but > > > > they're not obvious unless you're looking really close at the > > > picture, > > > > and even then I don't think they detract from the overall > impression > > > > in any way. There are many ways do make a great print, and I > think > > > BO > > > > is definitely one of them. I would do more of them myself if I > could > > > > get some neutral black inks for my 2100. > > > > > > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "jeades947 > > > > <jeades1@s...>" <jeades1@s...> wrote: > > > > > I have tried to get the hang of black only printing as > described > > > by > > > > > Clayton Jones so well.But, when I try this with my Canon S750 > > > > > printer; I fail to get any values above Zone 7 to have any > body > > > in > > > > > them. They are all blank white. I have tried increasing the > > > > > intensity of the black ink from within the printer properties > > > > > without success at all. I even went to transfer setting and > > > adjusted > > > > > the curve in the direction I thought would give me the desired > > > > > results, without any avail. I indicated to the printer it was > to > > > > > print in grayscale mode and had assigned Dot Gain 30% with > > > > > Photoshop.I was using Quadtone printing very well till I read > > > about > > > > > this which would seem to save a bundle of cash from not > having to > > > > > buy color cartridges every two weeks. That will break a rich > man > > > > > soon. What am I obviously doing wrong????? Back to Best Buy > > > tomorrow > > > > > for more ink to experiment with. I must have made 30 prints > today > > > > > trying to get it right. > > > > > > I just acquired an Epson 2200 and tried black only printing using > the > > > Photo black ink and Epson Premium glossy paper. Although the > > > sharpness and tonal gradations are excellent, the color of the > print > > > is very warm -- objectionably so for my taste. I am about to try > the > > > matte black and a matte paper such as EAM. I am a long time user > of > > > Piezo inks and get very satisfactory results from my Epson 1160 > with > > > piezotone inks. Is there some way of getting neutral B&W prints > from > > > the 2200 without investing in something like Imageprint 5? > > > > > > David Tilson > > > > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, > Polls and > > other resources as they are often being updated. 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Re: [Digital BW] Re: Trying Black Only printing
2003-01-23 by Julian Thomas
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