I just printed some Ilford Gallerie Smooth Pearl on my 2200 with photo black running Imageprint OSX. The results are really lovely...I'd say the hands down winner for RC style prints at this point. No bronzing at all and absolutely no rub off minutes after it comes out the printer. Didn't run a step wedge...but I'd say that the black is well over 2.0 dmax...probably in the 2.2 range. I don't consider the BW output from IP using the 2200 to be fine art prints (I prefer quad options because of tonal transitions and hilight detail), however for a commerical BW print I don't think this combination can be beat. An important note here is that the Ilford Gallerie Smooth Pearl is CHEAP! You can get it for $.25/letter sized sheet if you buy from Bhphoto in quantities of 250. This paper is so cheap that it really changes the economics of using the ultrachromes for certain jobs. I could use quads with a dollar/sheet paper or ultrachromes with a $.25/sheet paper. I think that counteracts the additional cost of the Ultrachromes. Robert On 1/25/03 10:25 AM, "John/Julie Gittins" <jgittins2@...> wrote: > Robert, > > on 01/25/03 3:27 AM, "Robert Morrison" <morrison@...> wrote: > >> On 1/23/03 5:40 PM, "Paul Roark" <paul.roark@...> wrote: > >>> I wonder if this is an RC paper that would work well with the new >>> RC-compatible inksets. I'd like to find some good alternatives to Premium >>> Luster and full-on glossy RC paper. > >> Yes, the Ilford Gallerie Smooth is the best of the pearl/luster RC papers, >> feel/surface wise...it was just a shame how poorly it performed with the >> quads...my guess is that it will work fine with the Epson 10000 black ink. >> I'll try some with the Ultrachromes tomorrow. Its also cheap and available >> in 250 sheet boxes. >> Robert > > I agree that out of the group of Ilford Galerie RC-type papers the > Smooth surface is the best-looking. I tried it with MIS original quads > early last year, and had the same poor result you report. Last week > I did some Black-Only prints on it with my C80 -- I was curious about > whether the C80's Durachrome black (like the UC Matte Black, not micro- > encapsulated) would do better at getting into the Ilford Smooth's coating. > It did, but there was still a gloss difference between the shadows and > the rest of the tones. However, after spraying these prints with > Lumijet -- 2 light coats and a 3rd heavy coat, which warmed the image > noticeably (but not too much for me) -- only vestiges of the > gloss differences were visible, and then only when I looked very closely. > After the spraying, I have to say that I think the print surface looked > quite good. > > Since the Epson 10000's Archival black IS encapsulated, I'd expect the > kind of (pre-spray) gloss difference I found would be reduced, if not > absent altogether, on Galerie Smooth. > > Yesterday, I got a sample of Epson Professional Glossy paper (only > available in cut-sheets in 13x19) and tried it, too, with the C80's black. > The tone of the black before spraying (haven't sprayed it yet)was much > warmer than with the that Ilford Galerie Smooth's after spraying. > Also, the ink seemed to get into the paper a little more. It strikes me > that Professional Glossy might be an interesting paper for duotones. > > Robert, on a different note, I'd like to ask if you're still planning > to bring an acrylic print-coating product to market in the near-future? > I'd like to stop using the spray-varnishes that now exceed my health-risk > threshold (after spraying a batch of prints, I feel as lightheaded, etc. > as after inhaling a cigarette for the 1st time following a 20-year > stretch of no smoking). > > John > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and other > resources as they are often being updated. The page is at: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to > unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same > page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - Include your full name with your message. > - Include the address of your website, if you have one. > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep > them short. > - As the topic of a thread changes remember to change the subject header. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or > &amp;quot;flames.&amp;quot; > - Complete your Yahoo profile. > - Before posting a question, search the message archives and the various > resources on the homepage. > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >
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Re: [Digital BW] Re: [DigitalBW] Ilford Smooth Pearl Inkjet paper
2003-01-25 by Robert Morrison
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