Digital BW, The Print

Hello Tyler:

yes, it has been a huge leap into the unknown... I expect that my 
grand ideas may end up in some sort of compromise in one direction or 
the other....paper or ink. Maybe using a suitable coated paper, doing 
the deckle with a ruler...whatever. 

I feel an obligation to longevity of course, having been 'archival' 
for so long. Wilhelm mentioned his intent of addressing the Lyson 
Small Gamut inks, which I have had an interest in... I'm also 
thinking about color ink too. 

As I gather some experience and an aesthetic sense of what is 
possible, I'll find a balance somewhere. It is helpful to read the 
experiences of others, and I am attentive to your posts, knowing your 
depth of insight. Thank you for your encouragement and the knowledge 
you share.

best,
ken

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Tyler Boley" <tyler@t...> 
wrote:
> Hi Ken,
> WOW! You really took the leap since last we talked. I have a 
suggestion. You have really taken the hardest challenge by 
> choosing these kinds of papers, though I don't wish to discourage 
your efforts. I seem to recall David Stock, who stuck his 
> toe in the water here and may have  moved along, has a great deal 
of experience on uncoated art papers. He may have 
> some good input.
> Dye inks work much much better on uncoated fine art papers than 
pigments, though it will still be challenging. Having seen 
> some of your work, and now knowing your printers and desired 
papers, I'd be very inclined to try the Lyson Small Gamuts. It 
> wouldn't be too painful to get a set of carts for the 1160 and try 
some small prints on these papers, before moving into the 
> 7000. The only negative comments I've heard may be irrelevant on 
papers like Fabriano. You could also pursue some split 
> toning with them, and the range from warm to cool is much greater 
than the various quad solutions. You will get brighter 
> cleaner color, and deeper blacks, before mottle and bleed with dyes
> Seriously, if I was after a fine art, more illustrative, deckled 
edge, uncoated look, I'd walk away from pigments and never 
> look back. Well... if I could nail it anyway...
> ....unless Cone finally comes out with Digital Platinum for the 
7000...
>  There are many very successful and serious fine art printers and 
print shops out there using dyes and uncoated fine art 
> papers, we never hear about them 'cause they're printing, not 
posting.
> Steadman will forgive me, I hope, for butting in. What you are 
doing sounds very interesting.
> Tyler