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Re: Further Adventures w/7600+ImagePrint: B&W Problem

2003-02-20 by jim hayes <jimhayes@frii.com>

I have been having luck either assigning (not converting) gamma 2.2 to 
file, OR dropping the profile in IP5- while making sure it's default 
greyspace is set to gamma 2.2
I have no idea why this works. In some cases a few values are a little 
off, but I've been pleased with the output even when this happened. I 
had to give up and do a levels adjustment to one image and comb it a 
tad. Printed a modest number of old files so far.
And it DOES look washed out in IP5 window. I just ignore this. Always. 
I just let it use gamma 2.2 and well, I get good prints that 
way<shrug>.
Windows2000 SP3, 2200, photorag, Eclipse Satine, 1440 and 2880 dpi. 
From legacy files using custom dotgains and dotgain % values.
JIm H.




--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Mitch Alland 
<malland@x> wrote:
> In the last report on my experiences with ImagePrint 5 and the 7600, 
I 
> dealt with color printing with Photo Black on Epson Premium 
Semi-Matte 
> and stated that I was very happy with the results, concluding that I 
> found the IP profiles slightly more accurate than Bill Atkinson's, 
> particularly in the shadow detail. Since then, I recommended IP to 
> several people.
> 
> Now, I have started trying to print B&W and have run into a brick 
wall 
> when trying to print "legacy" files, that is, old files that I 
> previously printed using PiezographyBW on the 1160: I have not been 
> able to get decent prints with IP to match the old Piezo prints. The 
> problem is that, when I place these legacy files in ImagePrint, the 
IP 
> Preview is "washed out," with lower contrast and higher brightness 
than 
> the view of the legacy file in Photoshop; and the new IP prints are 
> also washed out and not at all like the Piezo prints.  I've seen 
some 
> postings that other people are having the same problem.
> 
> The trouble is that whatever I try to do -- and I've tried all the 
> combinations that I can think of, including saving the 
> (Piezography-type) Custom Dot Gain as an ICC profile and opening the 
> file in IP with this profile; converting the profile in PS from 
Custom 
> Dot Gain to Gamma 1.8 or 2.2; assigning profiles, etc.  -- the 
Preview 
> in IP, and the IP print, are still washed out, always having much 
less 
> contrast and much more brightness than the Piezo print. Yet I 
suppose 
> that there must be a way of getting the legacy file to print the 
same 
> way they did with Piezography. Does anyone have a solution?
> 
> I've posed this question to Colorbyte last week but have not had a 
> response and now, out of desperation, I also sent a message asking 
Jon 
> Cone. Meanwhile, I'm stuck.
> 
> --Mitch/Bangkok

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