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Re: [Digital BW] Re: Further Adventures w/7600+ImagePrint: B&W Problem

2003-02-23 by Robert Morrison

Sorry not to respond earlier, Mitch.  The Imageprint profiles are less
compressed in the shadows than those that I've seen from the Epson
driver...but they are significantly compressed compared to the piezoBW
profiles.  For instance on a recent BW profile that colorbyte made for me
there is no measurable difference between the 95% and 100% patch in a
standard stepwedge...while I have no problem seeing the difference on a
piezobw stepwedge or on the screen.  I had this discussion repeatedly with
colorbyte and they are resistant to changing it.  I think this is because it
make the images look "washed out" when they use the correct curve for people
that don't know what they are doing with shadows.  Regardless, this is the
wrong policy...output needs to match a calibrated monitor and follow a
standard Ames curve. I've been using the new Ink Jet Control beta to make
profiles for both quads and my 2200 and the shadows are right on the money
with 1% separation throughout the shadows.

Robert



 On 2/22/03 8:01 PM, "Mitch Alland" <malland@...> wrote:

> For: Robert Morrison
> 
>>  My main complaint is
>> that the shadows in imageprint tend to be compressed...
> 
> I'm surprised. I guess I should ask, "compressed compared to what?"
> because I find the shadow detail to be quite good, with gradation
> similar to PiezographyBW, and, for color prints, the shadow detail is
> much better than the that of the Epson driver with Bill Atkinson's
> profiles.
> 
> --Mitch/Bangkok
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