Digital BW, The Print

From all the research I have done, you could not use real black & white 
papers on a lightjet. It prints with three colors and not a long enough 
exposure since black & white papers have slower ISOs. Unless everyone I 
have talked to at the major manufactures of digital to traditional 
photographic papers equipment has been lying to me, I was under the 
assumption it can not be done. Are you sure they are not printing on a 
paper that requires RA-4 processing. Also I believe all of those types 
of printers will only take rolls and not cut sheets therefor limiting 
paper choices from Kodak or Ilford to multigrade RCs. I don't think 
either have graded papers in rolls anymore.
Mark

mh wrote:

> I contacted reed by phone and they verified that they do use their
> LightJets with traditional B&W paper with traditional chemistry. Looks
> to be about 8 times the cost of the cheap frontier output on Fuji
> Crystal Archive so I won't go going that route very often.
>
> Here are the costs:
> 8x10  $16.00
> 11x14  $21.25
> 16x20  $31.50
> 20x24  $40.50
>
> Julian, I would like to hear more about your research regarding moving
> from GS to RGB and the lightjet samples. Are you attempting to get as
> neutral a print as possible or are you trying to tone it somewhat to
> get a more pleasing result?
>
> -mh
>
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Julian Thomas" <
> julianthomas@t...> wrote:
> > However they still need rgb files and it is processed in colour 
> chemistry
> > which is why I still class it as a 'colour-type' paper. You cannot 
> give them
> > a greyscale file. How you convert your file from greyscale to rgb 
> isn't as
> > easy as a straight PS move - I've spent a loooong time researching 
> this and
> > getting samples. All labs can print on BW RGB paper but this is not a
> > straight equivalent to even an RC BW paper. very good results are 
> possible
> > but it is not the same as a BW FB analogue print.
> >
> > Julian
> >
> > Julian
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <mh@t...>
> > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 10:37 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] How neutral are your B&W prints on the 
> Epson 2200?
> >
> >
> > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Julian Thomas" <
> > > julianthomas@t...> wrote:
> > > > Don't forget though that lightjets/lambdas are RGB devices and 
> even the
> > BW
> > > > is a RC colour 'type' paper. Classic BW FB isn't possible. Still 
> looks
> > great
> > > > though!
> > > >
> > > > Julian
> > >
> > > It appears that reedphoto.com does print on traditional Black and 
> White
> > > papers with their Lightjets. This is the first company that I have 
> seen
> > > that does this and wish more would. I assumed it wasn't possible since
> > > I had never heard of a company doing it. Given the relatively low cost
> > > for a Frontier, I would have thought a lot of labs would have 
> dedicated
> > > one to black and white printing. But I guess everyone is happy 
> with B&W
> > > on color paper; yet another "improvement" digital has forced upon us.
> > >
> > > I would be fine with color paper if it had a coating that looked like
> > > fiber B&W glossy. Neither Glossy or "semi-matte" in Crytal Archive 
> look
> > > right for any B&W image of mine, even toned or duotoned.  Anyone know
> > > if Fuji makes a true matte color paper?
> > >
> > > -mh
>
>
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