Digital BW, The Print

I'm trying for neutral first and then maybe a warmtone. I've tried labs with
Lambda and lightjet prints. First off i send a step wedge for a cheapy A4
test - something with a straight conversion in PS. The problem is that
various papers and machines respond differently which is where the profiles
come in - if you have a profiled workspace any decent lab (as Reeds do) will
give you their profiles and you can work from there. I'm perfectly happy
with dig output but some people are searching for FB 'look' and you need to
forget that and accept what the medium offers.

Julian
----- Original Message -----
From: "mh" <mh@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 12:52 AM
Subject: [Digital BW] Re: B&W prints on the LightJet at ReedPhoto?


> I contacted reed by phone and they verified that they do use their
> LightJets with traditional B&W paper with traditional chemistry. Looks
> to be about 8 times the cost of the cheap frontier output on Fuji
> Crystal Archive so I won't go going that route very often.
>
> Here are the costs:
> 8x10  $16.00
> 11x14  $21.25
> 16x20  $31.50
> 20x24  $40.50
>
> Julian, I would like to hear more about your research regarding moving
> from GS to RGB and the lightjet samples. Are you attempting to get as
> neutral a print as possible or are you trying to tone it somewhat to
> get a more pleasing result?
>
> -mh
>
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Julian Thomas" <
> julianthomas@t...> wrote:
> > However they still need rgb files and it is processed in colour
chemistry
> > which is why I still class it as a 'colour-type' paper. You cannot give
them
> > a greyscale file. How you convert your file from greyscale to rgb isn't
as
> > easy as a straight PS move - I've spent a loooong time researching this
and
> > getting samples. All labs can print on BW RGB paper but this is not a
> > straight equivalent to even an RC BW paper. very good results are
possible
> > but it is not the same as a BW FB analogue print.
> >
> > Julian
> >
> > Julian
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <mh@t...>
> > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 10:37 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] How neutral are your B&W prints on the Epson
2200?
> >
> >
> > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Julian Thomas" <
> > > julianthomas@t...> wrote:
> > > > Don't forget though that lightjets/lambdas are RGB devices and even
the
> > BW
> > > > is a RC colour 'type' paper. Classic BW FB isn't possible. Still
looks
> > great
> > > > though!
> > > >
> > > > Julian
> > >
> > > It appears that reedphoto.com does print on traditional Black and
White
> > > papers with their Lightjets. This is the first company that I have
seen
> > > that does this and wish more would. I assumed it wasn't possible since
> > > I had never heard of a company doing it. Given the relatively low cost
> > > for a Frontier, I would have thought a lot of labs would have
dedicated
> > > one to black and white printing. But I guess everyone is happy with
B&W
> > > on color paper; yet another "improvement" digital has forced upon us.
> > >
> > > I would be fine with color paper if it had a coating that looked like
> > > fiber B&W glossy. Neither Glossy or "semi-matte" in Crytal Archive
look
> > > right for any B&W image of mine, even toned or duotoned.  Anyone know
> > > if Fuji makes a true matte color paper?
> > >
> > > -mh
>
>
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