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Re: [Digital BW] Re: MIS new black/Paul

2003-03-09 by Jerry Olson

The gen 4 black has a +100 year rating according to MIS.  Good enough 
for me.

Jer

Robert Morrison wrote:
> The BlackBlack will be similar in lightfastness to the Gen enhanced
> black...both contain considerable dye stuff.
> 
> The real performer here will be the photo black on gloss paper...that will
> blow away all the matte blacks on dmax.
> 
> Coupled with the new Oriental fiber-based gloss which is due out sometime
> this spring it will be the ultimate digital "silver-print".
> 
> Robert
> 
> On 3/8/03 5:03 PM, "Jerry Olson" <jerryolson@...> wrote:
> 
> 
>>The Museum black isn't all that black. Portfolio is better, and the
>>black black is the blackest. (Cone inks).
>>
>>The Generations 4 black is deeper than any of the above. Very close to
>>black black. Very. But enhanced is still just
>>a tiny bit blacker. I could live with the Black Black from cone.
>>
>>Where does the new MIS version 4.3 black fit in here with the 4 above
>>inks as far as deep blacks go?
>>
>>I  recieved 12 little prints from Cone, and I think the Selenium toned
>>ink print with the Black Black is gorgeous. But I
>>understand the black black is not very stable. Anyone know for certain?
>>
>>If they had at least an honest 35 year life and they weren't three times
>>as expensive as most other inks, I'd use them
>>but first I'd like to see and hear more about the MIS 4.3 inks.
>>
>>Jerry
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>mh wrote:
>>
>>>Since they are comparing it to Museum Black can we assume that this is
>>>an all pigment ink?
>>>
>>>-mh
>>>
>>>--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "sceptre12345" <
>>>am1000@v...> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>From MIS site's:
>>>>As of March 1, 2003, Eboni has taken the place of the Double Density,
>>>>VM & FS black inks. We have not changed part numbers or prices, but
>>>>this is what you will now get when you order VM, VMS, FS, FSN or
>>>>Double Density Black. It has the same Dmax, 1.72 as the other inks
>>>>and will not effect profiles or workflow curves. It is the best black
>>>>ink we have ever made and it is superior to Cone's Museum Black. It
>>>>is also what we use in our PG and 7600 Archival inks as the Matte
>>>>Black. The older co-solvent based black is no longer available
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Steven Schaefer
>>>><stevenr@m...> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Paul I am using the MIS FSN inks. is this a replacement for those
>>>>
>>>>inks?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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