The gen 4 black has a +100 year rating according to MIS. Good enough for me. Jer Robert Morrison wrote: > The BlackBlack will be similar in lightfastness to the Gen enhanced > black...both contain considerable dye stuff. > > The real performer here will be the photo black on gloss paper...that will > blow away all the matte blacks on dmax. > > Coupled with the new Oriental fiber-based gloss which is due out sometime > this spring it will be the ultimate digital "silver-print". > > Robert > > On 3/8/03 5:03 PM, "Jerry Olson" <jerryolson@...> wrote: > > >>The Museum black isn't all that black. Portfolio is better, and the >>black black is the blackest. (Cone inks). >> >>The Generations 4 black is deeper than any of the above. Very close to >>black black. Very. But enhanced is still just >>a tiny bit blacker. I could live with the Black Black from cone. >> >>Where does the new MIS version 4.3 black fit in here with the 4 above >>inks as far as deep blacks go? >> >>I recieved 12 little prints from Cone, and I think the Selenium toned >>ink print with the Black Black is gorgeous. But I >>understand the black black is not very stable. Anyone know for certain? >> >>If they had at least an honest 35 year life and they weren't three times >>as expensive as most other inks, I'd use them >>but first I'd like to see and hear more about the MIS 4.3 inks. >> >>Jerry >> >> >> >> >> >> >>mh wrote: >> >>>Since they are comparing it to Museum Black can we assume that this is >>>an all pigment ink? >>> >>>-mh >>> >>>--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "sceptre12345" < >>>am1000@v...> wrote: >>> >>> >>>>From MIS site's: >>>>As of March 1, 2003, Eboni has taken the place of the Double Density, >>>>VM & FS black inks. We have not changed part numbers or prices, but >>>>this is what you will now get when you order VM, VMS, FS, FSN or >>>>Double Density Black. It has the same Dmax, 1.72 as the other inks >>>>and will not effect profiles or workflow curves. It is the best black >>>>ink we have ever made and it is superior to Cone's Museum Black. It >>>>is also what we use in our PG and 7600 Archival inks as the Matte >>>>Black. The older co-solvent based black is no longer available >>>> >>>> >>>>--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Steven Schaefer >>>><stevenr@m...> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>Paul I am using the MIS FSN inks. is this a replacement for those >>>> >>>>inks? >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>>Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and >>>other resources as they are often being updated. 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Re: [Digital BW] Re: MIS new black/Paul
2003-03-09 by Jerry Olson
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