Digital BW, The Print

Richard,

I posted 2 at least partial responses.  They are below.

For the deeper black, it's a trade off.  The Eboni is as lightfast as it
gets, but just slightly deeper than the FS/VM black.  Jerry likes the Gen 4
(Media Street) black.  So, that is another way to go.  It does fade and
warm, however.

Good luck.

Paul
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>Can the bottles just be switched or do you have to clean out the
>head and lines

I think I'd clean the system.  The bases/carriers of the two are very
different.

I'll run the question by MIS, and see if they've tried just switching
bottles.
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Yes, MIS also seems to be saying that just putting the new Eboni in the
system is OK.  Today, in response to my question about this, MIS sent the
following:

"Density is just slightly higher than the VM or FS black.
No compatibility issues between these and Eboni.
Cleaning and flushing not required.  ...  I will make
note of it on the [MIS] site."

So, I take it they think the new black ink can just be poured into the CFS
bottle.

_____________________

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Sintchak [mailto:richard@...]
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 12:02 PM
To: Paul Roark
Subject: Re[2]: [Digital BW] Re: MIS new black/Paul


HI Paul,

I posted the question below to the list but no one answered me.  If
you have a moment your thoughts would be very appreciated.

Oh, and if there's any other black you'd recommend that I can use with
the FS-N inks and the Randall curves with my 1160 I'd sure like to
hear your suggestions. I want a deeper black than I'm getting with the
FS-N black on Photo Rag, EAM and Eclipse Satine.

Thanks


Richard


Saturday, March 8, 2003, 4:47:57 PM, Paul Roark wrote:

PR> The new MIS "Eboni" black is said to be carbon pigments with no dyes.

PR> In one of my 300 hour fade tests of a number of black and light black
inks
PR> (all printed on EAM in BO mode), Eboni and Museum were the only black
inks
PR> to not only show no visual density decrease at 100% but also at 50%.\ufffd
Even
PR> the Epson UltraChrome matte black showed some fade at the 50% patch.\ufffd
So, I
PR> would say that there is almost certainly no dye or other fast-fading
PR> substance in MIS's new "Eboni" matte black ink.

PR> Paul
PR> http://www.PaulRoark.com


This new black sounds great. I currently run an 1160 with a CFS loaded
with MIS FS-N. I am almost out of black. Does anyone know if I can
just order a bottle of this new black and refill my old black bottle
as it runs low? Or just switch the tubes into the new bottle? Of
course I realize that it will take a little time for the old ink in
the tubes to run through but eventually I'd be at pure new black.
Would there be any issues in combining the two blacks this way?

Best regards,
Richard\ufffd

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