Martin I forgot to add that a custom profile for a colour printer is essential. Until you know that the printer is firing the inks in a linear manner, complex stuff like BW will be next to impossible. Julian ----- Original Message ----- From: "martinshakeshaft" <martin.shakeshaft@...> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 10:24 AM Subject: [Digital BW] Neutral black and white prints with the Epson 2100/2200? > I know from the archive that this subject has been covered before but > I have still to see a definitive answer. > > Is it possible to get neutral black and white prints with the Epson > 2100/2200? > > Well here I am one box of paper down and I have still to see a black > and white print that I like! > > Straight out of the box I find the black and white prints I am > getting are too magenta, especially with the Semi gloss paper samples > included with the printer. So I tried Ilford Smooth Gloss. These were > a bit better but still not what I wanted. I have surfed around the > net for advice, including Redriver and luminous-landscape and whilst > the quality improves when I hold my prints next to a traditional > darkroom print the differences are all too depressingly obvious. > There are colour casts in some tonal ranges..... > > So I turned to the Grey Balancer. Several prints later and a lot less > ink and I still don't appear to be any further on towards a totally > neutral, Ilford Multigrade looking print. > > Even prints printed with black ink only are not neutral, they look > slightly cyan in the darker tonal ranges. > > I phoned Lyson Inks who say a Black and white set of inks will be > available in the next couple of weeks for the 2100/2200, so is this > my only answer? I am disappointed if this is the route I have to take > as I did want to be able to print colour and black and white, but > black and white is my bread and butter work at the moment. > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Martin > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and other resources as they are often being updated. The page is at: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - Include your full name with your message. > - Include the address of your website, if you have one. > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. > - As the topic of a thread changes remember to change the subject header. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or &amp;quot;flames.&amp;quot; > - Complete your Yahoo profile. > - Before posting a question, search the message archives and the various resources on the homepage. > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >
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Re: [Digital BW] Neutral black and white prints with the Epson 2100/2200?
2003-03-30 by Julian Thomas
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