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Re: [Digital BW] sharpening and 16-bit files

2003-04-22 by Julian Thomas

All I do is work on an 8 bit dupe and then 'load selection' until everything
is in the  16bit original.

Julian
----- Original Message -----
From: "Simon Lamb" <simon@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 6:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] sharpening and 16-bit files


> Oh absolutely.  If you have found image adjustment functions that work in
> 16-bit then I agree, leave it in 16-bit for the workflow.  Can you share
the
> names of any that you have used that you feel work well, or have you
devised
> your own methods for working around the PS limitations.  I have tried a
few
> that work moderately well.
>
> Simon
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Julian Thomas" <julianthomas@...>
> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 4:41 PM
> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] sharpening and 16-bit files
>
>
> > I don't think that is true Simon. A lot of us spend a lot of time
finding
> > workarounds for layers-type moves in 16 bit. All curves and levels moves
> > should ideally be in 16bit.
> >
> > Julian
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Simon Lamb" <simon@...>
> > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 5:11 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] sharpening and 16-bit files
> >
> >
> > > Jean-Marc
> > >
> > > I think the point is that if you want to do curve/tone/etc.
adjustments
> in
> > PS you need to be in 8-bit mode.  Once you are in that mode, there is no
> > point in converting back to 16-bit mode to print as you gain nothing.
The
> > additional 16-bit data is already lost and your prints will look no
better
> > converting to 16-bit to print than if you left them in 8-bit.
> > >
> > > Of course, if your scanned images need no adjustment then print in
> 16-bit.
> > >
> > > Simon
> > >   ----- Original Message -----
> > >   From: Jean-Marc Humbert
> > >   To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> > >   Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 4:02 PM
> > >   Subject: Re: [Digital BW] sharpening and 16-bit files
> > >
> > >
> > >   --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Loris Medici"
> > >   <lorism@t...> wrote:
> > >   >
> > >   > Once you're done with all curves/tone adjustments and ready to
print
> > >   > there's no need to stay in 16bit anymore...
> > >   >
> > >
> > >   I don't think so.
> > >
> > >   If you use Piezography BW plugin (which is a driver replacing the
> > >   Epson one), it is strongly recommanded to keep as much information
as
> > >   possible (the highest dpi and the highest bit rate).
> > >
> > >   That's probably the reason why Jon Cone upgraded its Piezography BW
> > >   plugin (to a version 6 which works with 16-bit files) and why its
Pro
> > >   version of Piezography handles also 16-bit files: I do not know the
> > >   technical reasons and if there is really a difference between 8-bit
> > >   and 16-bit files for printing (may be its a pure commercial
argument).
> > >
> > >   I had tried in the last months to initiate a thread dealing with the
> > >   esthetic differences between 8-bit files and 16-bit files printed
via
> > >   the PiezographyBW plugin (see the piezo3000 newsgroup) with no clear
> > >   answers.
> > >
> > >   Jean-Marc Humbert
> > >   Paris, France
> > >
>
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