Digital BW, The Print

As my printing aesthetics lean much more toward "straight" 
black-and-white, I've simply stuck to Lyson's Quad Black Neutral 
for use in my 1160 (all prints fine thus far over the last year and a 
half, printing on EAM/EEM and HPR). I' *have* wondered idly 
about their SG inks, however, regarding their mid-to-long-term 
efficacy. I guess I'll be scratching SG of the list of "just for the
hell of it" inks to try out.

- Barrett

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, 
"nick90290" <NickBrandt@a...> wrote:
>In answer to the original question, my strong advice is avoid 
>Lyson SG at all costs. 
> 
>If you follow a thread of mine from a few weeks ago ("Lyson 
>Small Gamut - Shifting Green") you'll see why. With a pit in my 
>stomach, I have been busy recalling 120 prints of mine - both 
>sold and given away  - from around the country - in the last two 
>weeks - and ALL of them have shifted green from their original 
>sepia hue. I now have to reprint all of them. Some were over a 
>year old, some were only six months old. All were framed under 
>glass, printed on either Lyson Standard fine art, or 
>Hahnemuhle German Etching. (The lead chemist at Lyson in 
>the UK told me that they DID amend the coating for the 
>Standard Fine Art).
> 
> A couple of friends using SG have had the exact same 
>problem.
> 
>Just stick with MIS over Lyson whatever you do. Yes, you have 
>far less range in the tinting, the foolish reason I went with SG to 
>begin with  - but with the metamerism and shifting tones, so 
>what. 
> 
>Also, the Epson Ultrachromes on the 2200 using OPM/IJC 
>works fantastically too. No metamerism like MIS and 
>real-looking sepia.
> 
>In my opinion, Lyson should be run out of business. I've even 
>noticed my large-format Iris prints done with Lyson quadtones 
>are a touch greener a year and a half after being printed (my 
>large format prints are now done sing MIS on a 7500 and look 
>fantastic.)
> 
>I'm even worried about using Lyson Print Guard still - has 
>anyone had bad experience with that affecting the prints furhter 
>down the line?
> 
> Nick