Digital BW, The Print

My own problems with MIS pre-filled carts was: I only bought one set,
and one of the inks in the color cart ran out when the counter still
read 1/4 full. After that, I vacuum filled my own virgin carts for
half the price (after buying the syringes, kit, etc) and my only
problem was ink pooling every so often on installation- which I solved
by running three cleaning cycles upon installation of a new cart.

I think I still have a pdf on the cart vacuum filling procedure in the
files section of this list (sorry no pix).

I haven't heard of Alan's technique before, but it sounds like an
combo of the recovery method for CFS carts and the bottom fill method
for carts. Anyway, brilliant idea.
Jim H. 



--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Alan Zimmerman"
<azimmerman1@c...> wrote:
> Johnny, thanks for the response, Since I don't refill my own
cartridges, guess I'll need to get a syringe then a small bottle to
temporarily store.Are you using the inidvidual cart. or the refill
system. My cart. came direct from MIS already filled. I'm surprised
they would have air build up but I'm willing to try anything.
> thanks,
> Alan Zimmerman
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Johnny Eades 
>   To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 3:41 PM
>   Subject: Re: [Digital BW]Epson cartridge MIS black clog won't go
away on epson 1280
> 
> 
>   Hello Alan,
> 
>   I use an epson 1280 also, and when I get any banding; it appears to 
>   be air bubbles insted of a clogged nozzle. What I do to solve the 
>   problem is to tape over all the vent holes on the top of the 
>   cartridge and use a 60CC syringe to suck out all the ink and foam 
>   that has collected in the chamber. I reuse the ink and foam. The 
>   foam is just ink with air in it, which goes away and return to solid 
>   ink again. Then i refill the cartridge with ink and leave it sitting 
>   overnight. The next day everything works just fine. Try this one 
>   time and I think you will be surprised how quickly the banding goes 
>   away. If you try to print too soon, you may get pooling on the 
>   print; and you may still get pooling if you print at high speed 
>   anyway. 
> 
>   Your friend in Photography,
> 
>   Johnny Eades
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Alan 
>   Zimmerman" <azimmerman1@c...> wrote:
>   > I just started using MIS cartridge inks on Epson 1280. Printer had 
>   worked flawlessly with Epson dye based inks previously. Within one 
>   day, with the Mis Black cartridge I experienced banding on a 
>   grayscale file with Black only, (no gray or quad cartridge on 
>   line).. I then did 3 nozzle cleans and banding diminished but still 
>   visible with 15x loupe. next print same story. as of this second 
>   day,  and after 10 nozzle cleanings no relief. Any one have any 
>   suggestions?
>   > BTW, the same image file printed on Epson black only cartridge and 
>   Epson dye had much less visible banding under 15x loupe.?
>   > Would are COne system Piezzo inks less likely to clog----- 
>   >   From: Andrew Brilliant 
>   >   To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
>   >   Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 9:28 AM
>   >   Subject: [Digital BW] CIS Black CLOG on 1160 wont go away....
>   > 
>   > 
>   >   Ugh got a real bad clog   on my 1160. CIS   Black  ink.
>   >   Have tried all the usual solutions.    Both liquid and 
>   mechanical.   Cones 
>   >   tips and tried ammonia  and alcohol.   Also some     strange  
>   cleaning fluid 
>   >      from that company in Las Vegas.  Did not  work.
>   >   I hardly get any ink coming out of that nozzle, the numbers 
>   don't even 
>   >   print.
>   > 
>   >   I suppose I have to get it serviced.
>   > 
>   >   One last idea was to get an original Epson black cartridge and 
>   see if that 
>   >   ink will open up the nozzles. Does anyone  think that is a good 
>   idea  or are 
>   >   there some new ideas for cleaning .  I have not looked around 
>   for cleaning 
>   >   ideas since last summer.
>   > 
>   >   I need to start making some new B&W print quadtones.   By the 
>   way this clog 
>   >   is with MIS inks!!!
>   > 
>   > 
>   > 
>   > 
>   >   Check out www.brilliantpictures.com
>   > 
>   >   Andrew Brilliant
>   > 
>   > 
>   >   >
>   > 
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