Digital BW, The Print

Yes it will be addressed...let's just say that this paper performs
differently.

Robert

On 6/1/03 1:26 PM, "Carl Schofield" <scho@...> wrote:

> Robert,
> 
> Thanks for the report on the new Oriental paper.  I'm encouraged by
> your description of the surface characteristics, but the million dollar
> question is will this paper bronze with pigment inks like the current
> crop of RC papers do?  I'm sure this will be addressed in your upcoming
> tests and I'm looking forward to your performance reports.
> 
> Carl
> 
> On Sunday, June 1, 2003, at 03:33  PM, Robert Morrison wrote:
> 
>> I know many of you are interested in the possibility of Fiber-Based
>> Gloss
>> papers for inkjet with the hopes that we may be able to get a straight
>> out
>> of the printer "digital silver print" solution.  As I've mention on
>> the list
>> before Oriental (of Oriental Seagull fame--Ansel Adam's silver print
>> paper
>> of choice) is currently commercializing such a paper.
>> 
>> This week I was able to meet with Oriental's US marketing person and
>> was
>> able to get several sample sheets of the experimental beta-test paper.
>> 
>> Antonis Ricos and I are currently testing this paper using and Epson
>> 2200
>> with photo black ink and Imageprint and Inkjet Control to make
>> profiles.
>> I'm also intending to develop an Inkjet Control profile to try the new
>> Ultratone inks in a 1280 as well.
>> 
>> Posts about the ink performance will happen separately, but here are
>> some
>> general observations about the paper.
>> 
>> First of all, the base is identical to the other Oriental Fiber-Based
>> silver
>> papers.  It is heavy (probably around 250gm) and relatively rigid.  In
>> short
>> it feels like a average sheet of fiber-based silver print paper.  The
>> backing paper is slightly off white, almost identical in color to the
>> back
>> side of uncoated Hahnemuhle photo rag.  The paper is cotton as
>> determined by
>> testing the back side with a black light which shows specs of optical
>> brighteners indicating use of old textile cotton to make the paper
>> (almost
>> identical in appearance to Photo Rag).
>> 
>> I hesitate to talk about the surface because this is a
>> beta-paper...but the
>> test sheets that I received have a smooth surface identical to
>> Oriental's
>> gloss silver print papers with a very light tooth...considerably less
>> than
>> the Epson Professional Glossy paper and Hahnemuhle Photo Rag.  The
>> surface
>> is more like a gloss paper than a luster paper.  The test sheet has
>> considerably less gloss than the Epson Pro Glossy or Ilford Gallerie
>> Smooth
>> Pearl, which puts the appearance of the paper somewhere between a
>> luster
>> finish paper and a matte paper with respect to gloss.  I'd say the
>> paper has
>> a dull sheen.  The coating on the paper is not terribly regular, but I
>> assume that this is because the paper is a beta and was probably hand
>> coated.  The coating has optical brighteners, just like fiber-based
>> silver
>> papers.  I'd say the level of brighteners is nearly identical to Epson
>> Enhanced Matte, which puts it slightly more brightened than Photo Rag
>> and a
>> luster finish paper like Ilford Gallerie Smooth Pearl.
>> 
>> Oriental is hoping to release the paper in late summer, early fall in
>> both
>> sheets and rolls, but this is not a firm release date.  The release has
>> apparently been delayed by wanting to offer the paper in rolls as well
>> as
>> sheets.
>> 
>> As I mentioned we will post further testing results as we complete
>> them and
>> as further pre-production samples become available.
>> 
>> Robert
> 
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