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Re: Getting started -- Cone or MIS?

2001-09-29 by hgporter@yahoo.com

..., Jerry Olson <jerryolson@r...> wrote:

> The 1160 is the machine of choice for black and white printing. 
The 1280
> is also an excellent choice.
> 
> 
> The cone Piezo inks are quite warm, I would say brown on 
pure white
> papers. Some people love this, I don't.

Jerry & I have exchanged "opinioinated" conversation about this. 
Piezo has a slight warm tone — But it is far from brown. The tone 
is no where near a sepia on every paper I have used or seen in 
two print exchanges from 60+ print makers. This evaluation 
includes when I hold them side by side with a print made with a 
cool tone monochrome set using Paul Roarke's curves. Warm 
black is quite different from brown.

> 
> The Piezo inks are five times more expensive than the MIS 
Variable tone
> Hextone or Quad tone inks, and they have paper profiles for the 
most
> popular papers.

A set of ConeTech Pigmented Quad inks is $260 for 4-4oz 
bottles. I guess that puts a set of MIS inks at about $50 for the 
same.  In all my life I have rarely seen a price disparity this great 
for an equal quality product. 

Inkjetmall.com will send you a sample print for your evaluation. 
You can even send a neg or file and have them create a sample 
print from your image. It would be worth the investment before 
deciding on which system to utilize.

> Piezo does give excellent results right out of the box, but with 
minor
> twiddling, MIS equals that quality.
> 
> Jerry
> 
> 

The other thing to consider is how much "twiddling" — time — 
you are willing to spend. If you are selling your images, time is 
valuable.

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