The 'warmth' of piezo also changes with the paper you use. Som En is very warm, William Turner, less so and Photorag even less - pretty near neuteral. Julian ----- Original Message ----- From: <hgporter@...> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2001 9:37 PM Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Getting started -- Cone or MIS? ..., Jerry Olson <jerryolson@r...> wrote: > The 1160 is the machine of choice for black and white printing. The 1280 > is also an excellent choice. > > > The cone Piezo inks are quite warm, I would say brown on pure white > papers. Some people love this, I don't. Jerry & I have exchanged "opinioinated" conversation about this. Piezo has a slight warm tone - But it is far from brown. The tone is no where near a sepia on every paper I have used or seen in two print exchanges from 60+ print makers. This evaluation includes when I hold them side by side with a print made with a cool tone monochrome set using Paul Roarke's curves. Warm black is quite different from brown. > > The Piezo inks are five times more expensive than the MIS Variable tone > Hextone or Quad tone inks, and they have paper profiles for the most > popular papers. A set of ConeTech Pigmented Quad inks is $260 for 4-4oz bottles. I guess that puts a set of MIS inks at about $50 for the same. In all my life I have rarely seen a price disparity this great for an equal quality product. Inkjetmall.com will send you a sample print for your evaluation. You can even send a neg or file and have them create a sample print from your image. It would be worth the investment before deciding on which system to utilize. > Piezo does give excellent results right out of the box, but with minor > twiddling, MIS equals that quality. > > Jerry > > The other thing to consider is how much "twiddling" - time - you are willing to spend. If you are selling your images, time is valuable. Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and other resources as they are often being updated. The page is at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint Please follow these basic guidelines: - Include your full name with your message. - Include the address of your website, if you have one. - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. - As the topic of a thread changes remember to change the subject header. - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or "flames." - Complete your Yahoo profile. - Before posting a question, search the message archives and the various resources on the homepage. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Re: [Digital BW] Re: Getting started -- Cone or MIS?
2001-09-29 by Julian Thomas
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