Digital BW, The Print

Daniel,

Are you printing files in "grayscale" space or "RGB" space?  I am not 
sure, but this may make a difference.  Good luck.

Shilesh

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Daniel Staver" 
<daniel@p...> wrote:
> I actually just tried what you're suggesting a few days ago. I 
loaded a
> light black cart with yellow position ultratone ink and made a few 
test
> prints. I could still see dots in the highlights, and I got some 
very
> slight transition problems in the darker areas. The rest of the inks
> were regular MIS Ultratones. I didn't bother to do extensive 
testing on
> this, but I still have the cart here so if there's anything specific
> you'd like me to try I could make some more tests and post scans of 
the
> prints.
> 
> --
> Daniel Staver
> http://daniel.staver.no 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Shilesh Jani [mailto:shilesh.jani@s...] 
> > Sent: 23. juni 2003 15:29
> > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [Digital BW] Dots in 2200 Prints was Off-center 
> > prints on Epson 1200
> > 
> > 
> > Martin,
> > 
> > My apologies for not responsing sooner.  I had to go back and 
look at 
> > all of the 2200/2100 prints from the technical exchange and 
numerous 
> > prints submitted to the Tom O'Connell exchanges.
> > 
> > My assesment:  Yes, without exception, prints made with 2200/2100 
> > prints are more dotty in highlights than with 1280 printers.  It 
> > seems independent of workflow.  My sample contains IP5, Stylus 
RIP, 
> > Epson driver, IProof RIP,and OPM.
> > 
> > My guess is that the dots are caused by the relatively high 
density 
> > of the light black ink.  So, if it was replaced with a lighter 
> > density ink, say equivalent of yellow position Piezography, then 
a 
> > simple adjustment curve could be used to bring the repsonse back 
to 
> > linear.
> > 
> > Hope this helps.  Regards.
> > 
> > Shilesh
> > 
> > Still searching for hiher Dmax!!
> > 
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Martin 
Wesley" 
> > <mwesley250@e...> wrote:
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Shilesh Jani" <shilesh.jani@s...>
> > > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 3:01 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Off-center prints on Epson 1200
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > Bob,
> > > >
> > > > I agree with Martin.  The 1280 is a good choice.   I recently
> > > > participated in a Technical Print Exchange.  Comparing the 
1260
> > and
> > > > 1280, the prints were very similar in ramp smoothness and
> > dottiness.
> > > > Both printers were  A LOT less dotty than the newer 2200 
printer 
> > > > using a number of different RIPs.  So, unless you find a good
> > 1260,
> > > > you can confidently go with the 1280.
> > > >
> > > 
> > > Shilesh,
> > > 
> > > Unfortunately, I wasn't a member of the technical exchange but I
> > have
> > > communicat3ed with Clayton and I gather he is writing up a 
summary
> > plus some
> > > additional info.
> > > 
> > > From the samples you have you feel the 1280 and 1160 out 
performed
> > the 2200?
> > > That's too bad. I was hoping that the 2200 would represent a 
step
> > forward
> > > but I guess the mechanics really are not changing and the 
factors
> > that
> > > govern "dottiness" and smooth tonality as simply staying 
constant.
> > > 
> > > Martin
> > > 
> > > (snip earlier)
> > 
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