Digital BW, The Print

Terry, Michael K.? What was it about Tylers post that set you back? It seemed 
like  honest advice geared to the new user trying to make up his mind on 
which way to go.
I didn't see anything out of line from Tyler's post. I would say he has a 
correct bias towards Piezo inks and driver, because he knows how hard it is 
to match that quality, probably more than anyone. I can personally attest to 
the fact that I've wasted the savings on the price of ink(piezo vs, MIS) on 
Paper!  5 weeks of MIS inks with the 7000 = no savings and probably 200 hours 
of my time. Hey! but this was my choice, I like MIS inks, they are quite 
different from Piezo inks. I suspect most of the clogging problems come from 
Small variable dot printers such as the 1160, which probably has the most 
piezo users! What was touted as the best piezo printer by hundreds of posts 
may in fact be wrong, especially for long term piezo use.Remember when it was 
the 3000 taking all the heat? View the archives for a 10  to1 problem user 
report on the 1160.(ten times as many 1160's probably) Readers, remember! 
everything on these lists are opinions and this list reads sometimes like we 
are getting MIS inks shoved down our throats as the Miracle inks, the anti 
clog ink, the Vari tone ink, the $12.00 ink, The not brown ink, and on and 
on. There are problems with MIS inks, in my opinion! 
It might help to understand where Tyler is coming from, We both used MIS Inks 
in 1998! 3+ years ago, and we where both happy to jump ship when piezo came 
along, Thousands of dollars and hours spent fooling with these inks and 
trying to get a work flow down. The Work Flow? Tyler mastered it, Jon Cone is 
selling a variation of it with an all new driver!  He is just giving a 
warning to new users who think they can Jump on board Get MIS VM inks, load 
up Pauls curves and get printing cheap! Cheap and Digital printing are direct 
contradictions. Really, this list does read like a pro MIS list and a piezo 
bashing one. Mike! You spent quite some time with Paul getting down with the 
VM inks on your 7000. Even after getting it right on. it turns out its still 
too much trouble, and that you've gone back to piezo! Tyler was just trying 
to point out that after all the trouble the best your going to get is CLOSE 
to piezo! I'm good with MIS on my 7000 for now, but I really want to get  
into a simple grayscale 16bit piezo output, then everything else is the 
actual file. I won't have to make as many test prints or make an adjustment 
because I switched paper. New users? It all depends on how picky you are. See 
some prints somewhere.....
Between the piezo list and this one its the same 10=15 people over and over 
again. If you think the happy Piezo users are a minority, you gotta be nuts! 
I'am happy with both ink sets right now! 
Quadtone schizophrenic ;)
Steve M.

In a message dated 09/30/2001 7:27:41 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
terryr1028@... writes:
> Michael,
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> His post caught me off guard also, which prompted my reply.
> 
> Honestly Tyler, you are one of those that I respect on this list and 
> I didn't expect that from you. :-(
> 
> Terry
> 
> 




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