Digital BW, The Print

Carl

Thanks again.  You have really gone out of your way and I appreciate it.  Thanks also 
for the clarification on the paper differences and ink types (I should have read my own 
posted reference further which has a good description of what Epson has done to the 
underlying Somerset Velvet from St Cuthberts Mill to give it a better dMax).  I assume 
that the flaking they refer to with the Hahnemuhle paper is not too big an issue and 
well worth sacrificing for the deeper blacks etc ?  You've got me wanting to give this 
paper a whirl...

Cheers

Steve



--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Carl Schofield <scho@m...> 
wrote:
> Steve,
> 
> I dug around in my paper drawer and found an unused package of Somerset 
> Photo Enhanced paper (225 gsm).  I believe this may be the same paper 
> you are using and it is #2 in the list of Somerset papers in the list 
> at the link you provided.  I'm not sure if it is the "Velvet" or 
> "Textured" surface, since it was purchased a couple of years ago.  The 
> surface looks very similar to the uncoated Somerset Velvet (250 gsm) 
> which I also have but haven't used.  I profiled the SPE paper for QTR 
> 2.0 and uploaded the profiles to my filesharing site. The profiles are 
> in the "SPE.sit" archive, inside the QuadToneRIP2.0 folder.  This paper 
> does not perform particularly well with the UC inks and it has a dmax 
> (1.51) even lower than BES (1.56).  The blacks are not very deep and 
> also exhibit some mottling.  This is not the same paper as the Epson 
> velvet fine art, which is reported to have a much higher dmax, closer 
> to that for EEM.  The MIS Ultratone (UT) and Epson Ultrachrome (UC) 
> inks are both pigment inks.
> 
> Carl
> On Saturday, August 2, 2003, at 08:12  PM, kiwikale wrote:
> 
> > Hmmmm.....how would I find out the paper's dMax?  If it is any help 
> > (UK to US) this
> > paper is sold exclusively by Legion in the US as Somerset Photo 
> > Enhanced Velvet
> > (there is also a Textured variation).   I believe it is also the same 
> > paper as Epson
> > Velvet Fine Art (not available in the UK).  See:
> >
> > http://www.inkjetart.com/news/archive/IJN_11-05-02.html
> >
> > (This page raises another question - are the UT inks pigment or dye?)  
> > I am not at all
> > familiar with Brightcube Eclipse Satine but am I right in assuming 
> > from the above
> > article that the paper would be closer to Hahnemuhle Photo Rag? (which 
> > by the way
> > costs at least twice as much as Somerset in the UK).
> >
> > Thanks again
> >
> > Steve
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Carl Schofield 
> > <scho@m...>
> > wrote:
> >> Steve,
> >>
> >> I haven't used this paper, but if the dmax is relatively low try the
> >> the BES profiles.  The approximate relative dmax order for the three
> >> paper profiles I made are EEM 1.70, HPR 1.64, BES 1.56.
> >>
> >> Carl
> >> On Saturday, August 2, 2003, at 04:19  PM, kiwikale wrote:
> >>
> >>> Many thanks to Roy for making all this hard work available and to 
> >>> Carl
> >>> also for doing
> >>> the 2200 profiles.  I have just one question for Carl.  Which of the
> >>> three sets of paper
> >>> profiles would you recommend for use with Somerset Enhanced Velvet
> >>> from St
> >>> Cuthberts Mill?
> >>>
> >>> Cheers
> >>>