No, but it is a polyacrylic with added light stabilizer made specifically for coating signs. http://www.clearstarcorp.com/clearshield.asp It has a UV absorber in it...but I seriously doubt that's what making it work well...its simply the polyacrylic protecting the pigments from air. I've used the clearshield before. I find the Hydrocote easier to work with, but with slight diluting it could be a good solution for rod coating. I think it could also be sprayed, likewise with diluting. I used the semi-gloss product, but my guess is that a mix of the matte and semi-gloss would probably get us to the gloss level that we are looking for. The Clearshield is less toxic than the Hydrocote because of the co-solvents that they use. Robert On Sunday, August 10, 2003, at 05:13 AM, Steven Schaefer wrote: > Is the Clear Shield, Livick uses the Minwax floor product? > > And has any one used this on there prints? > > Steve > > garethlock4472 wrote: >> >> Found this link yesterday of anyone if anyone is interested >> >> http://www.livick.com/method/inkjet/pg1.htm >> >> Not into coating myself but thought you lot might like a read >> >> Gareth >> >> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Robert Morrison >> <rmorrison@p...> wrote: >>> I haven't tested the hydrocote coated prints, but when I was >> testing a >>> variety of of different acrylic based coatings with piezo inks I >> found >>> that under dry south window testing the coating improved the fade >> by up >>> to 100%...so this is the opposite of Paul's results with the >> Hydrocote. >>> Honestly I'm still a bit skeptical of the aliphatic polyurethanes >>> being as good for paper coating as the acrylics...but this is not >> based >>> on actual comparative testing...just my knowledge of the respective >>> chemistries. >>> >>> Robert >>> >>> >>> On Saturday, August 9, 2003, at 06:35 PM, Paul Roark wrote: >>> >>>> jeffmoore17@c... wrote: >>>> >>>>> 1) Has anyone done any testing on the issue of whether or not >> coating >>>>> with a product such as Hydrocote Polyshield affects the archival >>>>> properties of Piezography carbon prints? >>>> >>>> I've fade-tested coated v. non-coated prints. I assume the MIS >> and >>>> Piezo >>>> inks are about the same. In general, the coated blacks faded a >> bit >>>> faster, >>>> although I think that could well be due to the higher dmax >> raising the >>>> temperature (by absorbing more light). The black ink in the test >> was >>>> the >>>> MIS VM-K (probably the same as PiezoBW K). The 50% patches were >>>> generally >>>> the same in terms of their fade rates. >>>> >>>> There was one other situation that seemed to accelerate the >> coated >>>> print >>>> fading. I tested one group under very high humidity conditions. >> (The >>>> test >>>> light, etc. were right over a tray of water.) The coated print >> did >>>> fade >>>> faster. The uncoated prints faded at essentially the same rate >> as the >>>> low-humidity tests. I speculate that the difference could be >> that the >>>> hot >>>> light artificially dries the un-coated prints, whereas the >> coating >>>> traps the >>>> water around the pigments. >>>> >>>> In general, we've always been led to believe that high humidity >>>> accelerates >>>> fading, but this has never shown up in my tests except for the >> coated >>>> prints. One of the criticisms of accelerated testing is that it >>>> artificially dries the inks, with the result that the fade rate >> is >>>> reduced. >>>> >>>> So, I have 2 test results that seem to favor un-coated prints. >> I'm >>>> very >>>> suspicious that both are more artifacts of the testing than >> predictors >>>> of >>>> faster fading for PUR-coated prints. >>>> >>>>> 2) When coating Piezo prints with Hydrocote, after a good curing >>>>> period, can these prints be drymounted, i.e., Seal tissue and >>>>> drymount press? >>>> >>>> Yes, I've used Seal Colormount at 180 degrees f. Be sure to use >> fresh >>>> release paper and wait the full 7-day curing period. Also, with >>>> trimming >>>> the prints, a rotary trimmer might be a good idea. I've noticed >> a bit >>>> of >>>> edge roughness when trimming with a straight razor knife. >>>> >>>> As an aside, one of the PUR experts told me that heat accelerates >> the >>>> cross-linking and curing. Heating the PUR soon after application >> might >>>> actually make for stronger coating -- bringing the >> strength/extent of >>>> cross-lining of the single-solution, water-borne products close >> to the >>>> industrial products. (The adhesion of a water-borne PUR will >> not, >>>> however, >>>> match the solvent-based products.) This heating information >> suggests >>>> that >>>> the use of a hair-drier might not only speed the drying and >> curing, >>>> but also >>>> result in a stronger coating. >>>> >>>> Paul >>>> http://www.PaulRoark.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, >> Polls >>>> and other resources as they are often being updated. 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Re: [Digital BW] More Coating Questions - And some answers
2003-08-10 by Robert Morrison
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