Digital BW, The Print

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Roark [mailto:paul.roark@...]
> Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 6:17 PM
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Septone system
>
>
> Martin,
>
> >The Septone inks and software for the 2200 are made by Sundance
> Inks and R9
> >Software ...
>
> >The Septone system includes a neutral black ink, 3 warm gray inks and 3
> cool
> >gray inks. There is no color ink used. ...
>
> Well, there are certainly color pigments (I hope -- and not dyes) used to
> tone the carbon inks, especially the cool inks.
>
> One question is whether the warm inks are also toned.
>
> How warm is the warm Septone ink?  Is it about like the FS/PiezoBW, more
> like the Ultra Tone warm end (plain grays), or warmer than the UT
> warm/gray
> inks?  If it is warmer than the UT grays, then yellow and magenta are
> probably used to get it there.

Paul,

When I said there are no color inks used I just meant that there are no
C,Y,M inks in the any of the positions as in a color or VM ink set.

The samples I was sent which included examples of 100% warm and 100% cool
are comparable to the warm and cool versions of the Piezotones and the MIS
Full Spectrum. As to their exact components they have not said anything.
From their website, the cool inks had better longevity than the warm which
reminds me of the situation with the MIS FS inks. Without inside knowledge,
I would guess that they do not vary much from the other ink sets in regards
to the use of inorganic pigments but I can't say with any certainty.

I think I am mostly impressed by the software solution to on-the-fly ink
blending. The inks look good but do not seem to be substantially different
from the other carbon pigment gray scale inks on the market. The 2200
plug-in seems to be priced very well for people looking for a dedicated B&W
solution on the 2200 although a QuadTone RIP solution would be a tough price
to beat! <G>

When someone actually has this system up and running would you be willing to
do some comparative fade testing with the MIS UT inks? I could provide
standard wedges with Eboni and Selenium PiezoTone grays.

Martin
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