Digital BW, The Print

Hello Clayton,
 
I'm afraid my post wasn't clear :-) 
I did actually read your post: I'm not on a crusade to defend Randall's workflow (we aren't relatives :-), and I understand that poor shadow detail isn't an impediment to get beautiful prints, as long as the print matches what you see on your monitor (if you use a workflow with perfect shadow detail you might even be forced to set the black point more aggressively in Photoshop to have real blacks in your prints). So it may well be that both this workflow and my monitor have poor shadow detail, and therefore I'm a happy fellow.
I only offered to submit a print for you to have a sample where you're sure about the workflow that has been used: given that both Randall and Wolf workflows are very cheap, as they do not require RIPs, I assume that many may be interested in their evaluation.
Sorry if I wasn't clear.
 
thanks again,
Alessandro
 
 -----Original Message-----
From: Clayton Jones [mailto:cj@...]
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 17:15
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Tech Print Exchange Results



Hello Allesandro,

>...it's not clear to me how the evaluated print was printed.

I don't know either.  That is the information exactly as provided in
the exchange.  I'm just passing it along.


>I suspect, given that you say it's dotless, that Randall curves were
used, but then I also see you rated the shadow detail as "poor,
bordering on very poor", which I find hard to believe, as I get very
good results with this workflow on the Tyler Zs test (although I use
FS inks, not FSN, which may make a difference).
>I am willing to submit a print, if you're interested, and if the fact
that I'm in Italy isn't a problem (I have lots of bandwidth, though,
so I could download the test image).

This is exactly the reason I emphasized reading the text part, to
understand what this is all about.  The 'poor shadow detail' rating is
not to imply that excellent results cannot be obtained.   As was
stated clearly in the article, all the systems are being used
successfully.  The review is not judging whether a system is any good
or not.  There is no need to send me a print to defend this system. 
As I said in my original message:  

"PLEASE read the text part of it to be sure and understand its
purpose.  This was not a normal print exchange and it would be easy to
misinterpret the results."

I think if you will go back and read the entire text carefully you'll
see what I mean.  I know it's a lot of verbiage, but I was trying real
hard to explain it because I knew it would be easy to misunderstand. 


Regards,
Clayton


Info on black and white digital printing at    
http://www.cjcom.net/digiprnarts.htm



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