Digital BW, The Print

I agree with your 82% (actually more like 85%) observation, but my 
ramp is smooth from there to about 95%.  Beyond that its really 
difficult to judge.  Andy



--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "bobphoto" 
<bobphoto@a...> wrote:
> I find that the blacks from about 80 to 100% look about the same.  
There is a big jump at about 82%.  Also the mid tones do not have 
much separation and that there is a big step from 0 to 5%.  Am I 
doing something wrong?  I'm using PS7 with Adobe RGB, no color 
correction and EEM paper.  Inks are original VM and curves are the 
UT curves for the 1160. With the old curves if is very black from 
about 55% so I did see a change.
> 
> Bob
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Mark Hahn 
>   To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 2:14 AM
>   Subject: [Digital BW] Re: best warm tone for 1160?
> 
> 
>   WOW!!!!!!!!!!!  Thanks!!!!  Those curves change everything!  
I've 
>   been fighting with the original curves for 2 years and had just 
come 
>   to accept that some images just could not be successfully 
printed in 
>   quadtone... one of the hardest ones that I had been working on 
just 
>   yesterday printed perfectly first try with the new curves!!!  
>   Yeah!!!  Hats off to Paul!!!
> 
>   mark
> 
>   --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Andrew 
Unger" 
>   <ungram@y...> wrote:
>   > Mark, I'm assuming that you are using the original VM inkset 
and 
>   the 
>   > original Roark 1160 curves.  I switched to the new curves 
designed 
>   > for the Ultratone VM inkset but am still using the original VM 
and 
>   > found a great improvement because the new curves have a smooth 
>   > transition.  The shadow problem is no more.  Reprinting some 
old 
>   > favorites has shown how much better the new curves are.  The 
toning 
>   > works just fine with the new curves too.  The new Ultratone VM 
set 
>   > will probably give even more improvement.  You can find the 
curves 
>   > and instructions in files/MIS/Ultratones/1160.  Remember to 
use "no 
>   > color adjustment" in the print dialog for color management.  - 
Andy
>   > 
>   > 
>   > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Mark 
Hahn" 
>   > <markhahn2000@y...> wrote:
>   > > I have been using the MIS-VM inkset with Roark curves and 
find 
>   > that I 
>   > > am exclusively shooting warm or medium warm ink... doesn't 
seem I 
>   > > really need the variable inkset and while I am generally 
happy 
>   > with 
>   > > the results, shadows are often a problem.  Do the Original 
or FS 
>   > > inksets give better shadow details?  If so, what 
>   curves/workflow?  
>   > > Opinions on best results?
>   > > 
>   > > thanks,
>   > > 
>   > > mark
>   > > 
>   > > PS  I recognize that I am asking for opinions only...
> 
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