Digital BW, The Print

Thanks Alan,

I just called MIS and was told that with pigment-based inks you have 
to print every day to avoid clogs.  I am not sure that I want to get 
into that, even if it means just doing a nozzle check.  However, I 
was also told that the 2200 Epson inks are pigment rather than dye 
based and thus the 2200 is more prone to clogs than the dye based 
printers such as the 1280.

Have you had clogging problems with the 2200?  For those of us who do 
limited amounts of printing and use prefilled carts, I am not sure 
the per-print costs will be that much higher, without even taking 
into account the ink wasted in cleaning cycles and the Epson carts 
required as a "last resort."  On the other hand, $1000 plus is a lot 
to lay out.

Steve
--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, 
<Alan.Huntley@c...> wrote:
> Hi Steve,
> 
> I wouldn't call myself a "regular" printer, either, but over the 
years it seems that I've had less clogging problems with Epson inks. 
I have used the original Piezo inks (bad clogs!), my own custom blend 
consisting of MIS inks and Generations color inks, the original MIS 
VM inks, and, most recently, the MIS UT inks. Oh, I forgot, somewhere 
in there I played around with the newer PiezoTone inks, too.
> 
> About 2 weeks ago, I was kind of where I think you are...I had an 
Epson 2200 that I used for color printing and an Epson 1160 loaded 
with UT inks. After spending nearly 3 hours and a new set of Epson 
cartridges on my umpteenth tremendous head clog, I informed my wife 
that I didn't care how much ImagePrint cost I was buying it. Well...I 
do care about the cost, but you get the point! ;>)
> 
> Color printing "out of the box" is fantastic...I like IP's 
rendering of blues (for example, sky) much better than the Epson 
driver and profiles, shadow areas appear more "open", and, in 
general, the color of the prints look more like what I remember in 
the original scene. For instance, if you've ever photographed the 
orange sand dunes in Monument Valley you'll know exactly what I'm 
talking about. I'm still playing with grayscale...I didn't realize 
until yesterday that a custom dot gain curve or curves adjustment 
layer is required in PS in order for a B&W print to match what's seen 
on the screen in PS. I had done this very thing several years ago 
with Piezo, but just forgot about it.
> 
> Anyway, my 2 cents worth......
> 
> Alan Huntley
> 
> > 
> > From: "Stephen Kobrin" <skobrin@h...>
> > Date: 2003/10/26 Sun PM 09:34:23 EST
> > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [Digital BW] 1280 vs. 2200 question
> > 
> > Am I correct that with a 2200 and some additional software (a 
RIP) 
> > that I can get reasonable B&W prints with Epson inks?  I do not 
print 
> > frequently (3 or 4 prints a week on average) and the clogs, clots 
and 
> > cleaning cycles are driving me nuts.  I do this for fun and, at 
least 
> > tonight, it is not.  I am very pleased with what I am doing not 
and 
> > if I could get prints that are equal to what I get now with an 
Epson 
> > 1200 and MIS VM inks without the problems, I would switch in a 
> > minute.  I have a 1280 I use for color and selling that and using 
a 
> > 2200 for both seems attractive. The other alternative is to 
convert 
> > the 1280 to B&W ultrachromes and buy a small printer for the 
little 
> > color I do -- mostly family pictures.  However, I am not sure 
that 
> > would solve the clog problem given that I print infrequently.  
> > 
> > Steve
> > 
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