Digital BW, The Print

I hate to say this, but I honestly feel if you are using dyes there is
nothing you can say in the description to assuage the viewers longevity
fears. If you feel it needs to be mentioned, I'd work it into an artists
statement, and see if Wilhelm has any figures to cite based upon your
materials combination (specific papers and ink), perhaps providing a link to
the his site. But in truth, I think as you're working with a *CLASS of
materials that are not the longest lasting (*though certain combinations of
dyes and papers CAN outperform pigments. I'm speaking not of specifics, but
of perceptions) I think the less said about dyes the better. I'd just call
them inks.

Todd

> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., Carolyn  Frayn
> <carolyn@u...> wrote:
>> Mark, are we free to use this wittecism on our web sites??!!  ;-)
>> Wonderful!!!
> 
> Fine to use anything I write. But since I write with dyes instead of
> pigments, you'd better cut'n'paste pretty fast. By tomorrow, that
> post will probably be hard to read.
> 
> ----
> 
> I know we're all kidding around about this, but seriously, am I the
> only one that's concerned, or is getting this weird vibe when I
> mention that they're inkjet prints?
> 
> I know that all this is temporary; someday, one day, hopefully all
> inks will be at least pigment, if not something much better that
> hasn't even been invented yet. And I know that since I work with
> MIS dyes, I'm even more sensitive to it (but at least my prints
> aren't green by the window any more).
> 
> From all these suggestions, I like anything with the word
> "carbon" in it. Carbon has that connotation like it's the oldest
> substance on the entire planet. Carbon is Biblical. Carbon is The
> Book of Genesis. My issue is that I don't think MIS color dyes
> contain carbon; I think you guys are talking about Piezo inks
> having carbon. So again, I'm left behind.
> 
> What about "Photographic dye ink on watercolor paper"? Is that
> too wordy?  I like the word "ink"; ink sounds long-lasting, like the
> Declaration of Independence. "Dye" sounds like Rit Dye, which
> doesnt' sound permanent.
> 
> But I honestly DO think that conversations like this are healthy;
> just to keep this permance/language thing in the forefront.
>