Andu, I think we might be talking about different papers. The InkJetArt Museum paper I received did not act the same as the Epson UltraSmooth I have used. The PremierArt Fine Art (aka "Hot Press") paper I received from PhotoWarehouse.biz did print much like the Epson UltraSmooth, not the InkJetArt Museum. A number of sources suggest, if not outright say, that the Epson UltraSmooth and Scrapbook papers are PremierArt paper. I went back to the InkJetArt page and can see that they imply their "Museum" paper is very similar to the PremierArt paper, but I don't think they are the same. The "flaking" that I refer to that seems to plague smooth cotton papers is when little bits of the coating come off, leaving a white pinhole in the printed image. With many of the cotton papers, including PhotoRag and Entrada, many recommend they be brushed or wiped off before printing to avoid this problem. Apparently the "flaking" is due to little bits of coating that are loose and will come off. It's very irritating, and with roll paper, it's impossible to wipe it off first. The UltraSmooth/PremierArt lack of this problem as well as the lack of OBAs is what attracts me to it. At any rate, for the best dmax on a cotton paper, PhotoRag is still the champ (until Permajet releases the beta paper they sent to me). I wish the PremierArt papers could match it, but they are about 0.03 lower (plus or minus a little). Paul http://www.PaulRoark.com ________________________________________ -----Original Message----- From: px3n120x [mailto:px3n120x@...] Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 9:43 PM To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Premier paper and UT --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" <paul.roark@v...> wrote: > > >So the consensus is that this paper aside from being cotton > >is not worth using even at the decent price. > > I don't agree with this assessment. A while ago you had a different opinion on the paper I'm talking about: " I tried some InkJetArt Museum and found it very disappointing. It's not Epson UltraSmooth. I had lots of flaking with the InkJetArt Museum. Paul" > > Epson "UltraSmooth," now sold in smaller sizes as PremierArt Scrapbook > paper, was the first non-flaking cotton paper. I'm not sure there is > currently any other cotton paper that can claim to be non-flaking. That's a > fair accomplishment. Don't know what "flaking" is though I see it mentioned quite often but I guess it's not that faint black that bothers me. Andu > > It may not have the dmax of EEM or PhotoRag, but it's competitive with > Entrada. > > PremierArt also doesn't have the yellowing OBAs that PhotoRag and EEM have. > This may make those papers look good at first, but they won't age as well. > Frankly, I like the natural, non-brightened papers. > > I'd say the surface of the PremierArt paper is tougher than PhotoRag (not > only with respect to abrasion but probably also air-borne pollutants -- note > the recent Hahnemuhle problems with packing tape outgassing). > > Overall, this product in some respects is simply the best archival paper > there is. For the prints I sell that are expected to last, UltraSmooth is > the paper I use -- printed with UT inks. > > Paul > http://www.PaulRoark.com Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and other resources as they are often being updated. The page is at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. Please follow these basic guidelines: - Include your full name with your message. - Include the address of your website, if you have one. - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. - As the topic of a thread changes remember to change the subject header. - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames - Complete your Yahoo profile. - Before posting a question, search the message archives and the various resources on the homepage. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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RE: [Digital BW] Re: Premier paper and UT
2003-11-20 by Paul Roark
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