Digital BW, The Print

* -----Original Message-----
* From: Jeff Magidson [mailto:jef.jef@verizon.net] 
* Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 5:44 PM
* To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
* Subject: Re: [Digital BW] asking for help to choose a system
* 
* On Saturday, December 6, 2003, at 07:42 PM, Jesus RV wrote:
* 
* > The main problem I have had with the septone carts is making the
* > nozzles run
* > properly. Most of them remain respectfully silent -so to 
* say- while I 
* > try to
* > convince them to print with perfectly logical reasons.
* >
* 
* The Original Cone inks where made by Sundance (though none of us knew 
* it back then) and they where notorious for clogging. Those 
* inks caused 
* me a lot of grief ! I was rarely able to get a good and consistent 
* nozzle check with them. In addition the original Cone / 
* Sundance plugin 
* was flawed in my opinion because it was prone to reveal 
* banding on many 
* Epson's in comparison to Epson's driver which employs a dither that 
* usually hides banding problems most of the time.  Maybe Sundance has 
* fixed all these problems... but I personally would not use their 
* inventions based on my previous losses and frustrations with them.
* 
* In contrast the current MIS UT inks are the most problem free / clog 
* free inks I have ever used!
* 
* 
Jeff,

I agree with you about the original Sundance/Piezo inks. Clog city.
Especially on the 1200 I started with! The new Sundance inks are supposed to
be similar to the Piezotone and MIS-FS but we will have to see.

Personally I still prefer the Piezo/Sundance plug-in with Piezotone or
MIS-FS inks over RGB separation curves and the Epson driver. I find that I
can get to a finished  and tonally smoother print much more easily than I
did with the MIS-VM inks. Perhaps the UT and new curves are more refined.

A lot of this may have to do with printer to printer variation and my 1280's
seem to work very well with the plug-in. I personally have not seen any
difference in banding between the plug-in and the Epson driver and I have
run both on three different 1280's. My only dissatisfaction with the plug-in
is that they underlay 100% black with the gray inks resulting in a slightly
lower Dmax than they would get if they used the black alone in the deep
shadows.

I have ICC "Piezo 2" on order and I am very curious as to how this will
compare to the prints I get with the Piezo plug-in.

Martin Wesley
www.carolyn.cc/Guests/MartinWesley/pages/MW_01.html
www.borderless-photos.de/guests.html