You will get different hues with Epson MK, Epson Photo K, and Eboni K on different papers. If you want a cold to neutral black use a bright white paper like Premier Premium Matte or Piezography Bright White with Eboni. Conversely, if you want a warm brown tone try a warmer paper with either Epson MK or even Photo K (RC papers) ink. Also, I posted a link to some scans that show these differences in hue awhile ago, but here are a couple of examples (Epson semi-gloss) again: Eboni (semi-gloss, sprayed with Print Shield): http://www.homepage.mac.com/scho/Eboni.jpg Epson Photo K (semi-gloss, sprayed with Print Shield): http://www.homepage.mac.com/scho/Eboni.jpg Carl On Wednesday, January 21, 2004, at 01:22 PM, zloi1 wrote: > Sorry, I don't have the answer to your question. You are a step ahead > of me. I've been using the Epson blacks and have been quite > disappointed with their distinct lack of blackness (more like warm > brown). Even in the BO mode. So I was just about to send off for an > MIS Eboni cart when I came across your post. Sounds like you find the > Eboni blacker, but still lacking punch in some way. Printed anything > more with it since? I'd like to know your conclusion after you've > printed several different things with it, ie., whether it's worth > trying the Eboni or one is better off sticking to the Epson blacks. > Thanks. > - Tom > > >> Recently I got a cartridge of MIS Eboni to try in my Black Only >> printing on an Epson 2200. I have been using the standard 2200 >> driver on my Mac G4 and Epson Enhanced Matte paper. >> >> I am pleased with the more neutral tone of the Eboni prints, but I >> have noticed that the depth and richness of the print have been >> diminished. The blacks are not as deep and the highlights look less >> radiant than the prints made with Epson matte black ink. In general >> the Eboni tonal scale looks much narrower. >> >> Is this unavoidable, or is there a way to get more tonal scale out of >> Eboni ink? Is there a curve or a driver or something that was >> developed for BO on the 2200 using this ink? If this is as good as >> Eboni can do, I think I will live with the brownish Epson ink. Thanks. > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other > resources as they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish > to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting > this same page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to > keep them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or > flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from > the membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital > B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be > removed from the membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and > guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group > Owner and Moderators. See “Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines” in the > Files section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE > PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE “OWNER” > AND “MODERATORS” OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE > LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, > CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, > DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE > LOSSES (EVEN IF THE “OWNER” AND “MODERATORS” OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), > RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, > THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF > YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD > PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER > MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/ > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >
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Re: [Digital BW] Re: Eboni vs. Epson OEM for Black Only
2004-01-21 by Carl Schofield
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