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Re: [Digital BW] New icc based Soft-proof profiles for QTR

2004-01-23 by Roy Harrington

Hi Ellie,

I suspect it'll work just fine then.  Use the file in my download and
just convert the gray .tif to RGB.  And as Tyler mentioned if you want
to proof multiple rendering intents, then you need a separate proof
profile for each one.

Let us know if it works satisfactorily.

Roy

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "colorspanmam" <Ellie@I...> 
wrote:
> Hi Roy,
> 
> Thanks for the reply.
> 
> THe file that I get from a scanned BW negative have RGB values that 
> don't usually vary by more than about 10, and usually much less. 
> When I do the two hue/sat adjustment layers trick to desaturate etc, 
> the values are pretty well R=G=B.
> 
> I will try the conversion and see what I get. If that doesn't work, 
> I'll print the usual target on that ink combi and try to work it 
> that way.
> 
> Many thanks,
> 
> Ellie
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Roy 
> Harrington" <roy@h...> wrote:
> > Hi Ellie,
> > 
> > I'm wondering if the RGB file you send to the printer is basically 
> gray
> > where R=G=B or at least close.   Or do the 3 RGB channels 
> separately
> > control different inks to significantly control the density.
> > 
> > The main "new" thing was to use the RGB profiling that i1Match
> > already does to a Grayscale.  The reference file is actually still 
> an
> > RGB definition but only values with R=G=B are used.  When the idea
> > first came up,  we actually used the ordinary RGB targets but I 
> think
> > that had two difficulties.  First was how to drive a real 
> grayscale print
> > method with an RGB target file.  Converting to Lab and keeping L
> > worked pretty well but its not exactly the same thing.  The other
> > problem was that the Eye-One reader scans patches that must vary
> > enough for the read to recognize transitions.  Reducing the target 
> and
> > reference to just 21 gray values solved both issues.
> > 
> > So if your RGB files are essentially gray you should be able to 
> just
> > convert the targets to RGB and print, and do the same proofing that
> > is described.
> > 
> > However, if your RGB files somehow encode different inks I would
> > think you might have to go back to the regular RGB references and
> > target -- just use i1Match as normal.  The difficulty will 
> probably be
> > reading the patches, although you can do it without scanning.
> > The other issue is how well the i1Match software can deal with
> > colors other than real RGB.
> > 
> > I suspect you'll need to do various experiments and see what works
> > and how well.
> > 
> > Roy
> >

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