I have been harping about this too and gotten slapped around on various forums. Some part of Epson's revenue from printer slaes is based upon it's claim that its printers produce professional quality B&W out of the box, which is not the case. Epson should therefore either (a) revise its drivers so that they do what's promised or (b) stopping making innacurate representations. As to why no one has held their feet to the fire on this: I agree. The basic theory would be misrepresentation/breach of implied warranty of fitness. Now, if I filed a lawsuit years ago. But since I'm not, I've relegated myself to complaining fruitlessly to Epson directly and on the internet. :-) > Not to be sounding in Epsons defense, but do they actually advertise that their printers are capable of producing neutral b&w prints right out of the box? If they do, why doesn't someone hold their feet to the fire about it? I've wondered for a while now if Epson isn't actually making an effort, for reasons I can't see, to produce products and software that require third party RIP's to get the best results. Could be that there is not enough return for Epson to develop top notch software that would run only on their printers. While the RIP manufacturers can market their basic RIP to many different manufacturers. In any case, I believe you're correct about Epson promoting (either implicitly or explecitly) top rung results right out of the box, and not being able to deliver. > > Tom Baker > > Tim Atherton <timatherton@t...> wrote: > > > I just have to take exception to all those who complain that > > Imageprint - and many other software products - is a ripoff. > > the ripoff is in having to spend $400-$500 to be able to get the printer to > do what the manufacturer claimed/claims it can do - i.e. print B&W > > On top of which, for Imageprint - while it does, basically, do the job it > supposed to do fairly well , it is one of the clunkiest and worst designed > pieces of software out there - especially if you are paying $1500 to $2000 > or more for the "full" version. > > there is no real reason - apart from complacent market dominance - why Epson > could not produce a printer that actually does this out of the box. > > tim a > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from the membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: [Digital BW] Can I get a nice neutral black and white print from the 2200?
2004-05-14 by chipcarterdc
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